□ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (07:15-09:00)
□ Broadcast date and time: January 15, 2025 (Wednesday)
□ Host: Kim Woo-sung PD
□ Cast: Han Min-soo, member of the Democratic Party of Korea
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◆ PD Kim Woosung (hereinafter referred to as Kim Woosung): Yes, the situation is very urgent and the situation is difficult. We'll send you real-time through breaking news. It is known to many people that the police personnel are going up through the main gate of the official residence. There are a lot of complicated things to solve this situation and how to solve this political situation. You're a spokesperson for the Democratic Party of Korea. Let's invite Han Min-soo to the studio of Han Min-soo in Gangbuk, Seoul. Hi, Senator.
◇ Rep. Han Min-soo of the Democratic Party of Korea (hereinafter referred to as Han Min-soo): This is Han Min-soo. I think it's a little difficult and disastrous morning that it's hard to say hello.
◆ [Kim Woosung] That's right. I think the people will feel the same way, but the police broadcast a warning broadcast and the ruling party lawmakers gathered. First of all, the first stop is passing through and entering, but how do you feel about the arrest situation in general?
◇ Han Min-soo: I recently acquitted myself of the crime of protest, which was acquitted by a military court
I remember what Colonel Park Jung-hoon, the head of the Marine Corps Investigation Team, said when he came from the National Assembly. This person said that. One person. One is the president of Yoon Suk Yeol. Mr. Yoon Suk Yeol's path made everything a mess and a mess. A lot of people said that they became lawbreakers. As Yoon Suk Yeol, who said he would not hide behind the people in front of the people, hid the man who boasted, all of the loyal and loyal bodyguards on the front line now became criminals. What would happen if we made a country like this? What has happened to the Republic of Korea now since you became delusional and declared emergency martial law on November 3rd last year? The economy is really bad. When I go to that area and meet our small business owners and self-employed people, I can't even look up. There have been very few customers since the emergency martial law. Does it make sense for you to hide in your official residence to save your spouse after creating this situation? Those scenes will be known all over the world following the first one.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Foreign media are reporting, and I don't think anyone wanted that scene, but Chief of Staff Jeong Jin-seok issued an appeal and said, "President Yoon Suk Yeol can attend a third place and we don't have to show him being arrested like that." And the president's lawyer said, "Didn't the public not have to see this situation this morning?"
◇ Han Min-soo: If you didn't want to see it, don't just throw out opinions that are not coordinated within themselves like that, and you can investigate whether President Yoon Suk Yeol proudly goes out of his official residence and responds to the arrest. If you go and say that this is unfair, wouldn't you know that since you've been legally a prosecutor for so long? You just have to go through the due process. And I've been in politics for a long time and I've been vice chairman of the National Assembly, so I hope you don't deceive the people by saying that. The root cause is that President Yoon Suk Yeol did not respond to investigations and investigations and did not respond to arrests. By the way, what kind of sunset is it called Goseong Nak-il? Don't play the poor victim cosplay stuck in the castle. Now the victim is 50 million Koreans. It's definitely not the president of Yoon Suk Yeol. Why do you dress up as a victim? Confidently, he is now a criminal suspect. You can be investigated and punished.
◆ [Kim Woosung] Okay. It's just a suspect. It's a ∀.
◇ Han Min-soo: That's right. I'm definitely not a victim.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: There are also claims of the ruling party that they are just victims, but they are too excessive, but Yoon Gap-geun, a lawyer for President Yoon Suk Yeol, said this. This is not a legitimate execution of official duties. Articles 110 and 111 of the Criminal Procedure Act on warrants cannot be searched and searched without permission for military secret zones or places where the president resides. This is what it's about. Since there is no provision for this exception, all acts are illegal and constitute civil war. This is the story of lawyer Yoon Gap-geun. How do you see it?
◇ Han Min-soo: I don't know what you're talking about. Didn't he say he wouldn't receive anything because it contained that clause last time? Then you're talking about a 180-degree different position, but I know that lawyer Yoon Gap-geun was also a prosecutor. He even served as a high-ranking prosecutor in the prosecution until the Supreme Prosecutor's Office, and they all know. According to the due process of the investigative agency and the court issued a warrant in due process by the judge. Then there is no one there to reject the warrant in Korea. That position can't be anyone in the president's family, not the president. There are no exceptions before the law. If I keep misleading you with strange words, are you saying that our public authority, the police, and the prosecutors of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit who went to catch Yoon Suk Yeol Lee are criminals? I think I'm continuing to talk about some common sense and nonsense.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, acting president Choi Sang-mok expressed that he would be held responsible as acting president in the event of an unfortunate situation, but I think he was mindful of mentioning things like bloodshed.
◇ Han Min-soo: I'm also very worried because I heard from the news that a firefighter has already been injured. I hope you didn't get hurt too much. In order for this to no longer happen, it is important for me to respond quickly to the cooperation from the security service, and I'm telling you because I'm frustrated with acting Choi Sang-mok, but I'm acting Choi Sang-mok. He is the acting president. He is acting with the deputy prime minister, and there is only one person who can order him to comply with the search, arrest, and search warrant of the presidential office's security service. But this person is watching the fire across the river. Is it time to keep saying to both sides that there should be no accidents and that conflicts should be eliminated? I don't want anyone to get hurt anymore, and when this situation is over, I think I'm responsible for the maximum. Why are you acting like that? Take your heavy responsibilities a bit. I'm telling you because I'm really frustrated, but it appears on a page in history. Due to Mr. Yoon Suk Yeol's unconstitutional illegal martial law and civil war, a person named Choi Sang-mok served as acting president. There was a crisis in the Republic of Korea, but the crisis was overcome by the wise Korean people, and the Republic of Korea flourished even more. The name of the top tree will appear on one page of this history. But should I act so cowardly? I'm a little frustrated, so I point it out sternly.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: The validity of the search warrant was also announced this morning. The arrest warrant is due next Tuesday, Jan. 21, and now the police are ready for a protracted war. It's coming out like this, but what position will the Democratic Party take if it fails, as in the first round?
◇ Han Min-soo: I really don't want to make a family. I had about five hours in the first round. If you look at anchor Kim talking about it now, the police will continue to this day and tomorrow.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: I'm reportedly planning for two nights and three days. This comes out, too.
◇ Han Min-soo: I think we're continuing to talk about that, but as I said in the beginning, as Colonel Park Jung-hoon lamented, I think it's better for you to come out of your mind even now when our Republic of Korea is broken by one person. If you come out of your official residence, you don't know where you are with your cell phone turned off, so you even got a search warrant, right? Aren't you saying you don't know where Yoon Suk Yeol will be in his official residence? So this disastrous situation came to the point where we had to search. People all over the world envied us for K culture and K culture Korea, but what do you think when you see this? As you said, if it doesn't work today, if it doesn't work tomorrow, we will try to encourage the investigation period so that we can continue to execute more.
◆ [Kim Woosung] Okay. The first hearing date for the impeachment trial also ended in four minutes. There was also a challenge to the Constitutional Court. Everything about the political justice has been dismissed and I will proceed even if the respondent is not present. Like this, the Constitutional Court said. What do you think of this situation?
◇ Han Min-soo: First of all, I think it's a natural move for the Constitutional Court. You have to do this like that. Didn't he himself prevent even the documents sent by any constitutional court from being served from the beginning with a delay strategy that the person who created this situation would continue to drag on? So, I said I received it from the Constitutional Court and proceeded with it, but after that, I still raise various issues. I've been making unreasonable claims that something was missing in the proper execution process. At the same time, didn't you even apply for a challenge against the Constitutional Court judge and leave the relevant judge, and the other seven people had a meeting, but they unanimously dismissed it? But I'm also protesting against this. In the end, I believe that the actor and the main culprit are Yoon Suk Yeol in the actions of Yoon Suk Yeol's lawyers. Why are you so mean? You're mean, you're the one who's been enforcing the law, aren't you? What did you say to yourself after responding confidently? Even after the emergency martial law, he said he would accept it confidently, whether it be the Constitutional Court or the investigation. He said he would not shy away from legal and political responsibility. Then, you have to delay the Constitutional Court's hearing and continue to drag on. Then, after more than six months, when the two president-appointed judges' terms are over, what are you going to do to completely ruin the Republic of Korea by paralyzing the function of the Constitutional Court? I don't know if the delusion that he could come back to the presidency after that has still been held in private.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Well, it's not a criminal trial, but I think it's intended to guarantee a sufficient right to object.
◇ Han Min-soo: If so, in the case of yesterday, you can go out and explain your position. And it's scheduled for the 16th. You can go out and explain it to our people confidently as you say. I think the fact that these parts are continuously absent will eventually have a very, very negative impact on the Constitutional Court's judgment. From Yoon Suk Yeol's point of view.
◆ [Kim Woosung] Okay. Now, this is hot news, and Choi Jae-sung, our senior secretary for political affairs, also came out and talked about it yesterday, but it is not a foreign exchange crime. We will investigate the foreign exchange charges and see the results according to the investigation. Rep. Han Min-soo's interview yesterday was also reported a lot. There was also criticism from the Democratic Party of Korea that the opposition party created too much room for opposition to the people's power when it proposed a proposal to revise the special prosecution law.
◇ Han Min-soo: First of all, I'd like to see the special prosecution law in the power of the people. Because until now, the Choi Hae-byeong case, which was unjustly sacrificed in the past, was not revealed, and we kept talking about the recommendation of a third party representative, Han Dong-hoon, who was the party leader at the time. However, it has never actually proposed a special prosecution law. Kim Gun-hee has never proposed the Special Prosecutor's Act. There has never been a member of the National Assembly who has proposed all the independent counsel laws. I've only talked about it now. So, I think many people of the Democratic Party of Korea are also suspicious of whether it is a delay operation or a delay operation. So, please propose this special prosecution law this morning. So please bring this. First of all, I would like to discuss it with the Democratic Party of Korea, and then in terms of the content, they have insisted that it is unconstitutional with content that is not unconstitutional in our view. But we accepted all of that part this time. The third-party recommendation was also changed to the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. The investigation period has also been shortened. In addition, the scope of the foreign exchange activity was also very strictly limited in relation to emergency martial law. And he keeps putting a frame on it like this, saying that Kim Jong-un will like it. Because you're deceiving the people. Then, it becomes a political conflict. But what's clear is that all these things came out in the notebook of former intelligence commander Roh Sang-won, right? You know it's been reported. If you look at it, North Korea's NLL will induce it. There are expressions like this. Then we have to investigate this accurately. And they're going to be guilty of foreign exchange. There is no expression for foreign exchange in the bill we have put forward. It's a foreign exchange act. Then, a special prosecutor must be appointed and all suspicions about this must be revealed. If I don't reveal it right now, how can I not reveal it? It will be evident in the next administration. Then, after that, the special prosecutor can determine whether it is a foreign exchange crime, a transfer crime, or a violation of the national security law, and decide accordingly.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: He said that the legal establishment issue can be judged after the investigation, because the moment of exchange, North Korea is still our country under the constitution.
◇ Han Min-soo: Yes, that's right. Therefore, there are many foreign exchange activities, and I think we can look at what crimes we will consider and apply them according to the investigation. All of these things I'm telling you clearly are that if the National Power comes up with a responsible amendment to the Special Prosecutor Act, our party will also discuss it in a fairly open manner.
◆ [Kim Woo-sung] That's what the report is about now. Now, the power of the people has decided to propose a martial law independent counsel law on its own. You said you didn't bring it yet, but I just said it, and the details came out. It is a third-party recommendation, but it is recommended by the head of the court administration or the president of the association related to the law. It also has the word "insurrection." It also includes charges of causing human and material damage in the process of arresting and detaining politicians and public officials and pre-mocking charges of involvement in riots in the leadership of civil war until the lifting of martial law. Then, the period was reduced from 150 days to 110 days, and the number of people decreased from 155 to 68. I know that the Democratic Party of Korea is now asking us to talk about this much, but how do you evaluate it?
◇ Han Min-soo: We need to discuss this further. I wonder if the investigation manpower part will be possible, and I'm considering a lot about our foreign exchange charges here, but they haven't proposed it now. I haven't even come up with an amendment, but the argument is that Yoon Suk Yeol's act of emergency martial law itself should be cut off. In my opinion, there are crimes that continue to be suspected of inciting civil war, which have been revealed a lot since then. It seems to be blocking any investigation into this, as if it is an allegation of rebellion. I don't know about that. Can our people accept it? If you don't want to get a red color this time, you can't.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Do you have any plans to revise the foreign exchange charges mentioned earlier within the opposition bill?
◇ Han Min-soo: I thought there were a lot of opinions. In fact, if the power of the people acknowledges the need for an independent counsel to end and end the civil war and is not actually a delay strategy or drag on, I think our floor leaders can review it and do so.
◆ [Kim Woo-sung] This is a bit sharp. The ruling party will propose a separate independent counsel law in the position that it will not be dragged into the leadership of the party's opposition party. Nevertheless, even if the opposition party's independent counsel bill is revised or not revised, it is scheduled for the 16th of the plenary session. There will be communication between the ruling and opposition parties on the vote and how they are forecasting it
◇ Han Min-soo: Don't you think the floor leadership of the national power themselves recognizes? The National Assembly's plenary session passed the National Assembly's plenary session with 198 votes for the last independent counsel law. After the resolution was approved and rejected by the acting authority, two-thirds of the National Assembly needs to re-decide, so 200 seats. But 198 members of the National Assembly voted for it. In fact, this is a huge percentage. And there are not many bills that are so pro-choice in the National Assembly. In fact, when there was a sharp disagreement, but I want to say this to the National Assembly. There are seven parties in the floor. The only political party that opposes the 22nd National Assembly is the national power. All six political parties are in favor of the Kim Gun-hee Independent Counsel Act. Then, should the Republic of Korea be so confused because of the opposition of one party? I call for the ferocity of national power.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: There were also criticisms from opposition lawmakers, including Rep. Park Ji-hyun, but are you trying to censor the crime of inciting civil war through national messenger or various social media? Mayor Oh Se-hoon criticized Lee Jae-myung's fake news, saying, "I will respond to fake news even if I bet my seat." Please organize it for me.
◇ Han Min-soo: First of all, Mayor Oh Se-hoon, what did CEO Lee Jae-myung do to benefit from fake news? I can't help but ask back. Mayor Oh Se-hoon said, "Please add to the lives of Seoul citizens in this difficult time of living. If the president of this chaotic and produced party has caused a really ridiculous emergency martial civil war and the whole country is in chaos now, take responsibility for it and apologize first. Now is the time to step in to raise your ransom with the next presidential election already in mind and the early presidential election in mind? Get your act together. Mayor Oh Se-hoon and fake news should be done. Regarding fake news, is it a problem between the ruling and opposition parties, conservative progressive? The evil of fake news is huge.
◆ [Kim Woo-sung] Because we talk about it in a way that's similar to people's lives.
◇ Han Min-soo: No, so I think it's a frame. In my view, if a lawmaker Jeon Yong-gi has any remarks about what this is in the public's eyes, it is necessary to explain it. But how does our opposition party censor the DUP kakaotalk? In reality, do you think our anchor Kim Woosung is possible? How do we look at other people's Kakaotalk? I don't know if they're watching. That's why it's ridiculous. These days, I think there are a lot of false news among people who are gathered in various communities on Kakao Talk. I think there are things related to various politicians as well as civil war. This is too much fake news. There are people who get it every morning when it spreads. It's just that it's really bad for mental health and it's hard. If you report these parts to the Democratic Party of Korea or report them to the investigative agency, this should be a strict punishment. I think I approached it from this aspect. Ordinary People Why are ordinary people punished for not being misled by fake news and not creating fake news? I think this is just trying to attack the Democratic Party by creating a frame in this really chaotic political situation again.
◆ Kim Woosung: It's a frame. You responded like this. Lastly, please give me a short answer. Acting President Choi Sang-mok's decision to extend the bill to extend state funding for free high school education has now been vetoed. A short comment from this
◇ Han Min-soo: Why is the acting authority so selectively not using legitimate authority in some areas, but in others, I really want to use the veto power that goes beyond the basic task of maintaining a certain form of acting authority? Isn't it only the power of the people on this part, or isn't it something that all members of the National Assembly agree on except for some forces? In this regard, I hope that acting Choi will communicate more smoothly with the National Assembly and make a better judgment.
◆ [Kim Woosung] Yes, sir. The situation is a little urgent today. We will contact you urgently depending on the results. Thank you for talking today.
◇ Han Min-soo: Yes, thank you.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: It was Han Min-soo of the Democratic Party of Korea.
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