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□ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (07:15-09:00)
□ Broadcasting date and time: January 15, 2025 (Wednesday)
□ Host: Kim Woo-sung PD
□ Castor: Kim Dae-sik, Senior Spokesman for the People's Power Floor
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◆ PD Kim Woo-sung (hereinafter Kim Woo-sung): YTN Radio News Fighting! You're listening to it together. It is said that the police and the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit have entered the front of the third cordon. It has been reported only to the situation where they encountered the security service staff. We will give you detailed news during the interview. As I warned you, I am the chief spokesman for the People's Power Floor. You came to the studio of Kim Dae-sik. Senator, welcome.

◇ Kim Dae-sik, Senior Spokesman for the People's Power Floor (hereinafter referred to as Kim Dae-sik): How are you?

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Well, I've said this before, but the situation is so urgent that it's hard to say goodbye. First of all, please give us a general review. This situation is also happening right now.

◇ Kim Dae-sik: I'm very ashamed of myself as a politician. It's a situation where I can't really say what to say to our people right now or how to comfort them. I came out from 4 a.m., so I had a floor meeting, and I came out in the middle of a meeting with the emergency committee a while ago. Didn't the 1st and 2nd cordons get pierced like this right now? It is a relief that we have done it without such a big collision so far, but we should not have any conflicts in this situation because we are now arriving at the 3rd cordon. I look at it like this and I don't know if this is for the purpose of arrest or investigation. Regardless of the fact that you are an incumbent president, you will be investigated in a third place, so I think it's okay to choose a method of receiving it. The reason is that foreign media are continuously broadcasting it. If you do that as a foreign media, it feels like we're seeing the situation we did in South America or something in the past. We're still an economic powerhouse and we're in the top 10 in the world, so I can't say anything, but the current Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit and the police team have cooperated to get to the third cordon, so above all, I just hope that something will proceed according to the law without safety accidents and conflicts.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: What the ruling and opposition parties and the people want together is that we shouldn't lose any blood. Acting President Choi Sang-mok also talked about that part. But what you said earlier was actually that Director Jeong Jin-seok made a public appeal yesterday. We could come out to a third place and do enough investigation in other ways, so we wanted to stop the arrest warrant that forced us to seek that arrest warrant, but there was no consultation from President Yoon Suk Yeol's lawyer. Like this again,

◇ Kim Dae-sik: So I was surprised when I saw Chief of Staff Jeong Jin-seok's statement, but isn't this the message that came out after consultation? As the anchor just said, we haven't been able to consult with the lawyers over there? Then I'm worried about whether there's some confusion in there as well. So the safest place is, in a way, the official residence. So, the prosecution, the police, and the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit cooperate and consult with each other, so I don't think there's anything big about entering the official residence and being investigated. And since I'm an incumbent president, I think one of the alternatives is to prosecute and be tried.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Chief of staff Jeong Jin-suk and lawyers are said to have arrived at the third cordon. Maybe I can persuade the investigators like that there. If the arrest warrant is executed today, tomorrow, or within three days, I think the party should also take a position.

◇ Kim Dae-sik: Right now, we can't talk about it in advance, and I think the party will be able to make a position if the arrest warrant is executed in any way.

◆ [Kim Woosung] Yes, sir. I can tell you that only when there's a situation. I think you're in this position. Now, the situation is illegal execution of warrants, and the president of Yoon Suk Yeol is talking about it. In particular, Articles 110 and 111 cannot be searched for military secret reserves. Even without permission, I added an exception at first, but why did I add an exception? It was illegal, but now it's illegal to come in because there's no such thing.
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◇ Kim Dae-sik: So I'm no longer a lawyer, but when I ask lawyers this question, isn't Article 110, Articles 110 and 111 of the Criminal Procedure Act a problem? Whether it is included or not included in this? The Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit must have reviewed it enough, and the President's Office must have reviewed it enough. This is a debate between each other, and I think the first priority is really, rather than how to execute it or not, as I said before, but the people want me to make them feel a little relieved, and the people are asking me why I have to do this so early in the morning. How can we explain this to the people right now? It's very unfortunate. Look at this.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: 29 members of the People's Power, Kim Ki-hyun, Na Kyung-won, and Lee Chul-kyu, were caught on the screen early this morning. Rep. Na Kyung-won even shed tears a little, but they went out to the scene to protect the president, but I understand that they are still drawing a line from the official position of the party.

◇ Kim Dae-sik: That's right. Currently, the official position of the party is that lawmakers are going out individually, so can't we blame the constitutional institution for acting one by one? However, rather than protecting the president, the members of the Korean People's Power went to deliver a strong message from the people that they should comply with the constitution and execute it according to the law.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, at this time yesterday, Chairman of the Policy Committee Kim Sang-hoon said something similar. It's not about defending President Yoon, but asking him to do it without any doubts. Representative Cho Kyung-tae said, "Members who follow President Yoon's will should leave the party. There are a few voices or other voices within the party. What do you think of this voice?

◇ Kim Dae-sik: I am. Isn't our lawmaker Cho Kyung-tae one of the most in our party's six terms? Representative Cho Kyung-tae is also a constitutional institution, so of course, I think he can talk about his personal story. But I need to refrain from making such remarks that go all the way to the end after looking at the situation. That's what I think. The reason is, how can you talk like that? According to his own belief, he's that kind of belief. I think like this and try to understand it like that.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Before that, I think it's a little overlapping with the party leadership saying, "If you're going to do that, go out."

◇ Kim Dae-sik: Speaking of that rebellion, I said, "I agreed or did something." This is not why I'm asking you to leave. And didn't I talk about it now? You're going to group our party as Hitler, and you're going to be persecuted for being Jewish.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: I'm selling it?

◇ Kim Dae-sik: And more than Chun Doo-hwan's followers. I think I should refrain from doing this. In some broadcasts, why Rep. Kim Dae-sik is doing it with only a weak first-term election? Other lawmakers don't say that. As for my belief, Rep. Kim Sang-wook, I really care about him like a younger brother, and I think he's an excellent lawmaker. However, I was giving advice as this brother, even though I was a first-term person who had tried politics first. I said that I'm not talking about this carelessly, but I'm only talking about it like this except for everything else, but this is not my story, but lawmaker Kim Sang-wook talked about it. Reflecting on that, please refrain from expressing these expressions in the future, and that's advice to my brother as an older brother or affectionate advice.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Rather than going to the extremes, Kim Dae-sik is actually taking the position of finding something in common.

◇ Kim Dae-sik: That's right.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: The person who is in a state of most headache right now is the acting president Choi Sang-mok. It's in the middle. However, there are many words that say, "Actively, don't play a role." If there is a physical conflict, the acting chief executive Choi Sang-mok will also be held strictly responsible. This is the situation. What role do you think you should play now?

◇ Kim Dae-sik: I think that acting chief executive Choi Sang-mok should really actively participate in this. For example, the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, the prosecution, and the police can't give you 12 guidelines for the investigation. However, physical conflict and public safety are the acting president, so you have to actively express it yourself. That's what I think.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Don't crash. Don't talk about it and you have to do something yourself that won't crash. You're talking about it as the head of the administration, right?

◇ Kim Dae-sik: That's right.

◆ [Kim Woosung] Okay. As of now, there are only verbal messages left. Even before talking about the special prosecution law, it came out briefly, but I'll just do it. If you look at the revised proposal by the Democratic Party of Korea, it is fake news that there is no foreign exchange charge, so we removed the right to veto the revised proposal and reduced the number of people for various periods. Should we say that we have issued our own independent counsel bill because we can't accept it?

◇ Kim Dae-sik: Last time I came out here and said that one time. Before this became public, we talked about how we were alive from the third-party special prosecutor's office, and let's put our heads together and do this together. That's now become a reality. Now, the Democratic Party has put this development in this military and national security situation in this. Of course, it was related to the alleged rebellion, but in fact, I didn't even send a filth balloon or a Ukraine dispatch, but I put the idea of sending a troops. I think this is a huge toxic clause. So, we took this out as an alternative, and we are actually investigating the prosecution and police's airborne office, so there are many ways to reduce the number of people. More than 80% of them thought it was almost the same as the Democratic Party of Korea, so now let's put our heads together and discuss it. Whether the National Assembly Speaker mediates, let's give the people another chance to judge what the people's power and the Democratic Party's plan are. Then we see it as a possibility and willingness to consult with the Democratic Party, except for the toxin clause.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: As Rep. Kim Dae-sik said, we should exclude toxic clauses, whether it's a third-party special prosecutor or anything, but now we have excluded them. There was a martial law independent counsel bill within the people, asking if it was necessary to put so many people in and expand it to that extent. Then, behind the scenes, you are now the floor's chief spokesman anyway. Can we make an agreement or something like a vote on the 16th through a little consultation?

◇ Kim Dae-sik: I'm a little sad about the agreement yesterday. In fact, the judiciary committee has already been afraid of the media that we will come up with such a proposal from the power of the people. Then, in the case of yesterday, the Judiciary Committee will not pass it if the Democratic Party is willing to discuss it, and then wait for a day or two. Then, let's see what the people's power has proposed. And let's do it together. Shouldn't we show some sincerity like this? Isn't that cooperation?

◆ Kim Woo-sung: The Democratic Party will discuss the bill on the special prosecution of the people's power when it submits it again,

◇ Kim Dae-sik: So it's a matter of waiting a day or two because we said we're going to do it now. It's a one-sided thing without it, so we can only see their will to go one-sided on the special prosecution law without talking to us now. I'm looking at it like this.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: In the meantime, the Democratic Party of Korea's so-called kakaotalk censorship is a frame. Earlier, Rep. Han Min-soo also came out and objected, but he is now using such expressions as the crime of inciting a fake news rebellion, and the attack on representative Lee Jae-myung is continuing. How do you see this situation?

◇ Kim Dae-sik: I can only think of this as a maneuver to divide between these people and the people.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: It's a maneuver for division.

◇ Kim Dae-sik: Because freedom of expression is a breakwater for representative democracy, isn't freedom of expression? I look at it and even the people's Kakao Talk, and the people hate it the most. If this leads to Jinyoung's logic, it will only lead to further division of the public opinion. That's why I should boldly put down these parts from now on, even using the term "policing or what" in the Democratic Party. And isn't CEO Lee Jae-myung the one who wants to be president in the future? And aren't you the representative of the first party now? And in any opinion poll, Lee Jae-myung is currently listed as the No. 1 presidential candidate. Then, I don't understand that this idea came out of a party like this that wants to become an authoritarian party. I'm going to be bold today, but I have to let this go. That's what I think.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Member for Ye Jeon Yong-gi is the person concerned.Ma said that fake news cannot be tolerated even if he is a member of the National Assembly, but at first glance, it seems to be a principled story.

◇ Kim Dae-sik: It's fundamental, but it's the same for me. Fake news shouldn't be produced. I 100% agree with that. Regardless of which camp you advocate, will it become fake news? The media is the same. I'm willing to say okay with everything that goes around that fact, but I can't accept such things as plotting a division of public opinion by using this as a metaphor.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Representative Lee Jae-myung's comment on the offensive of the people's power is in the same context as whether Kakao Talk is a sanctuary for fake news

◇ Kim Dae-sik: In the same vein.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: And the acting president Choi Sang-mok exercised the right to demand reconsideration to discuss the bill to extend state funding for free high school education.

◇ Kim Dae-sik: The second right to demand was talking about it today.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: There is also a position in the education world that this is a shame.

◇ Kim Dae-sik: Now I have a pros and cons there. However, this is an area where we can do this enough, and in the case of the AI textbook problem, we made a proposal that Kim Jin-pyo, the chairman of the National Assembly, used to call him the father of the AI textbook, and now it is a practical textbook. However, if you don't recognize this as a textbook and use it as a reference book, there will be a lot of confusion. Then, let's adopt it as a textbook and do it as a pilot for a year. After reviewing only the schools we want, let's do another case like that in the year after, but it's a big confusion because everything is unilaterally said, "This can't be done now." So, it is the second right of acting authority Choi Sang-mok to ask the National Assembly to review it.

◆ [Kim Woosung] That's right. If you look at the details of the state funding extension bill in detail, Kim Dae-sik is also an education expert, so you should consider it more specifically here, but some said it was a shame. In addition, as you have just said, the lawyers and the senior prosecutor of the Senior Prosecutor of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit are now in consultation with each other on the execution of the warrant. We looked at the situation and predicted it, but why are you in trouble because this situation is broadcasted all over the world? Then, he was invited to President Trump's inauguration, but he was the only lawmaker invited in the National Assembly, so I'm curious about that. What is the background of the Trump administration's only invitation to Congressman Kim Dae-sik?

◇ Kim Dae-sik: Yes, I've now been the secretary general of the Advisory Council on Democratic and Peaceful Unification under the direct control of the President. At that time, we built 116 networks around the world. I went to the U.S. often. So the people I dated at that time... Network America is a network society. It's a social network, so what kind of network do you do it through, but I think Senator John Cornyn is now the closest thing to President Trump. I received an invitation through this person, but in the United States, there is little point in gathering tens of thousands of people at the presidential inauguration. But six balls are held that evening. There's a ball attended by the vice president couple, there's a ball attended by the president couple, and then there's a final stage attended by the president couple and the vice president couple. There are all 100 senators present. The senator invites a patriotic figure or two. I can bring it with me. When you go there, you have to wear a tuxedo when you go in there, and women have to wear dresses, and you can go there and network with a lot of people before you start the ball. We talked together, so the most important thing I'm going to tell you this time is don't worry about the Republic of Korea. The Korea-U.S. alliance is reliable. And the Republic of Korea, our great Korean people, have overcome crises at any time. Aren't we now a country where we live on trade and trade issues through exports? I've delivered this to the United States, and I'm negotiating with Junior Trump right now. If possible, I will meet with Junior Trump and the U.S. Senate and the hearing appointed by the presidential candidate have not passed yet, but I think one of my goals this time is to meet with the ministers once or twice to fully convey the situation in Korea. He will also attend the inauguration ceremony, but

◆ Kim Woo-sung: It's a difficult situation, but it's very much the same now with the ruling and opposition parties where the people can have a little bit of hope. As a politician representing Korea, there are people, so don't worry. I'll talk to President Trump. During the inauguration ceremony in real time, we connected you to the U.S.
◇ Kim Dae-sik: That's right. If I connect the situation, I'll be the reporter in real time.
◆ [Kim Woo-sung] Yes, I see. YTN Radio is a special reporter for Congressman Kim Dae-sik's inauguration in advance. Please continue to love it. Today is also a complicated political issue, but you've said it well in the hearts of the people. Thank you for talking with me today.

◇ Kim Dae-sik: Thank you.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, it was Kim Dae-sik, a member of the People's Power.