[News UP] "Yoon's second arrest warrant" is being executed..."Body fight." Crash too.

■ Host: Anchor Yoon Jae-hee, Anchor Cho Jin-hyuk
■ Starring: Choi Chang-ryul, Yongin University Special Professor, Park Sang-gyu, Current Affairs Critic

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[Anchor]
A warrant for the arrest of the first sitting president in constitutional history is in effect. President Yoon's second arrest warrant is currently being executed.

[Anchor]
Choi Chang-ryeol, a special professor at Yongin University, and Park Sang-gyu, a current affairs critic, came out. Welcome.

[Anchor]
We're continuing to show you the on-site screen. The Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit and the police have already passed the first and second cordons in the morning. We arrived at the 3rd cordon, and we saw it through the screen.Ma could see Chief of Staff Jeong Jin-seok and Attorney Yoon Gap-geun coming out of the door and moving inside the official residence with only the least amount of troops. It seems that some of the personnel of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit and the police have been included, but there will be consultations between the two sides regarding the execution of the warrant. What do you think?

[Park Sang Kyu]
Isn't it said that Chief of Staff Jeong Jin-seok and Attorney Yoon Gap-geun presented the warrant in front of the main gate at 5:10 today at the scene where they wore jumpers from the High-ranking Civil Servant Crime Investigation Agency? That's the official gate to the presidential residence and the guard post on the right under the guidance of Chief Jeong and Attorney Yoon. I went through the post. It's been 10 minutes since I went inside. It should be seen as a meeting with President Yoon in it. So I think he will explain the purpose and ask me to comply with the execution of the arrest warrant.
Of course, without meeting President Yoon in person, there may be someone like the head of the security department or Kim Hong-il, the representative of the defense team.

I don't know the situation.Ma is currently covered by a tree and the personnel of the police and the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit who went to the front of the 3rd cordon. In the previous screen, additional people are going one after another, and as it is known, more than 1,000 people are waiting, so the road is narrow, so 1,000 people don't go at once. The first and second rounds. Rather than a cordon, it means that the bus bar wall was over six times in front of it, and then the car parked horizontally went over the ladder. In fact, it is believed that there are only about 500 people in the security service.

It is known that there are about 700 administrative agents, but Kim Sung-hoon, deputy chief of the security department, said yesterday, "Employees who are reluctant to take a vacation officially do not have to come out. This is why it is believed that about 200 people are not at work. That's why about 500 people might be inside the third cordon now. Hasn't there been a report that some police agents have tried to get in behind them? I don't know if it went in, but it won't be easy for you. Because the barbed wire is quite tight, it seems to be such a situation because it is not heard that it was cut off and entered.

[Anchor]
This is the screen you're looking at the 3rd cordon, just above the text that says "official residence" in the picture. It seems that the bus that was placed over there is moving. A little while ago, Presidential Chief of Staff Jeong Jin-seok, lawyers, and some personnel from the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit and the police were even seen going inside the post, but you are suddenly seeing a large bus that was in front of you moving.

[Anchor]
The bus used as a car wall seems to have made way for one side. The bus is out of the entrance. Judging from the fact that they are parking again on the right and the breaking news that the police arrest team is continuing to enter the official residence, negotiations seem to be going smoothly inside.
How do you see it?

[Choi Chang Ryul]
Attorney Yoon Gap-geun and Chief of Staff Jeong Jin-seok were in the room. I think there will be some kind of talk. However, I would not have said that I would completely comply with the execution of the warrant by the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit. Based on lawyer Yoon's behavior until yesterday. But based on the bus's movement, it's not yet clear whether that door is about to open or whether a large number of arrest teams are trying to enter.I think the 1st and 2nd cordons were easier than I thought. I think the last third cordon is that door. Since it's an official residence in there, even if there are security guards at the end, arrest warrants were issued for the two, Deputy Chief Kim Sung-hoon and Director Lee Kwang-woo. They're going to execute it because it's been issued.

There's no reason why we can't enforce it. These people are not subject to security under the Security Service Act. The arrest warrant for Deputy Chief Kim Sung-hoon and Director Lee Kwang-woo seems to be going smoothly. If that happens, there will be no way for the security agents to stop it. The command is about to collapse. In that situation, only the car has moved, and it seems difficult to predict with this screen in particular.

[Anchor]
If so, it is reported that manpower is going in one after another.

[Park Sang Kyu]
It came to the front of the third cordon.

[Anchor]
As the professor pointed out, isn't there an arrest warrant issued for Kim Sung-hoon, the deputy head of the security service? Since there are some people asking for cooperation to arrest Deputy Director Kim Sung-hoon, isn't there a possibility that the execution of that part will be carried out first?

[Anchor]
Wait a minute. We're opening the door on site. The door in front of the official residence is opening.

[Park Sang Kyu]
A new situation has unfolded, but in that case, the security service staff are not scrambling to see the door open.

[Park Sang Kyu]
There's an SUV going in. I'm entering the second generation.

[Anchor]
It's called a bodyguard vehicle.

[Park Sang Kyu]
It's a different story. Then, three cars stopped on that road, not a bus. It is questionable why the bodyguard vehicle stood and the door closed again.

[Anchor]
To summarize the situation, the bottom of the screen is the outside of the official residence. You can think of it as the direction of the inside entering. The iron door opened, and a large bus lifted the car wall a little while ago. The iron door has opened and the three large SUVs you see now are security vehicles. The bodyguard vehicle went inside.

[Park Sang Kyu]
Three cars go in, stand, and keep going inside, and the inside is the last right turn to the official residence. If you pass through the invisible part, you will go to the end of the right side in a T-shape, so that is not the official name, but it is the place set by the security service as the last stop. And it's really going to be in front of the official residence. There was a time when it was canceled after a physical fight in front of it in the first stop, so that will be the key. In terms of time, 2 hours and 1 minute have passed since the arrest warrant was presented. So whether this will continue. If that door couldn't be negotiated inside, I wonder if there's an attempt to infiltrate that door, or an attempt to move on, but it's not that situation yet, and we're still talking to the inside about the security staff inside.Ma doesn't feel like he has any weapons or anything like that. I saw him holding a K1 rifle, exposed outside.I think Ma was a simple show-ing. Now, the police say that they didn't take three batons, and the security officials don't see any weapons like this, such as personal firearms, so-called pistols, or short guns.

[Anchor]
As I just showed you, it was a while ago that three additional security guards vehicles entered the official residence. Didn't you say that the security service would take security measures in accordance with due process in the first round of enforcement attempts, but this time, we will try to prevent physical conflict in any case?

[Choi Chang Ryul]
I don't think I'm going to use my physical strength. If you use physical force, it will be a crime of injury for obstructing the execution of special public affairs later. The story itself changes. The security staff will talk a lot about pensions later, and they will be able to face various disadvantages, so they will refrain from physical conflict. The police will also refrain if possible. Isn't that why we need to negotiate? Otherwise, that negotiation itself would have no reason for the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit and the police to go in there. It's not a situation where you're going to physically crash right away. President Yoon says the execution of the warrant itself is an illegal warrant and an illegal investigation.Ma, that's your argument and it's basically a legitimate warrant. There is a limit to executing a legitimate warrant. I told you that the command would collapse.Ma is that Kim Shin, the head of the family, is still very strong. A warrant hasn't been issued for Kim Shin, the head of the family. Kim Sung-hoon and Lee Kwang-woo have been issued warrants and arrests will be made first.

[Anchor]
From the inside, a large SUV is moving from the official residence to the outside. It's shrinking and the vehicle is moving. Now it's stopped in front of the door.

[Park Sang Kyu]
It has not been confirmed whether that is to prevent the official residence or whether someone is trying to get on and go outside.

[Choi Chang Ryul]
To stop the official residence, they would have blocked it with a bus. You can't stop it with that car.

[Anchor]
The screen I'm showing you is YTN alone. Two large SUVs from the inside of the official residence to the outside... the door is now open.

[Park Sang Kyu]
That car is confirmed to be a bodyguard vehicle, so even if someone is in that car, it is unlikely that it will be President Yoon.

[Anchor]
Looking at the car in the back, I don't think it's an SUV. Who's in the car in the back.

[Park Sang Kyu]
Isn't that an SUV, too?

[Anchor]
After opening the trunk, two cars stop briefly in front of them and leave, but the second vehicle is also opening the trunk.

[Park Sang Kyu]
I think that's the usual security search by the security services. I feel like I'm looking at what's behind me. If President Yoon is to respond to an arrest warrant, shouldn't a convoy go in? Underneath this screen, that door opens, and we don't know if it's going to be a convoy, a microbus, or a car.Ma believes that the warrant execution is carried out by negotiation only when the car is used, but there has been no such appearance yet. I can predict that there will be a conversation between the two sides over the execution of the warrant because the people who appear to be the employees of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit went inside.

[Anchor]
There was even talk that the police and the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit prepared for a long-term war for two nights and three days. Looking at this situation this morning, I think it's speeding up a lot.

[Anchor]
Personally, this second round of execution from a few days ago will not cause physical conflicts or such things as the media talks about and predicts in general. Even if there is, there may be a light physical fight. But the police say they put in 3,700 people. They say that there are about 1,000 people going in front of them. The security service will have limitations in the group of arrest, search, and equipment. Even if you compare it to physical force, the police equipment and personnel are overwhelming. If the security service is going to defend the president, it could do something worse. There's a sniper, right? There's a sniper, too. The security service is protecting the president. But the bodyguard can't use that kind of force. It's a situation that I can't do. In that situation, the 1st and 2nd cordons came this far more easily than expected. Chief of Staff Jeong Jin-seok and Attorney Yoon Gap-geun went in together as the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit and the police went in. Like it came out on the screen.

[Anchor]
News is coming from the scene, and we heard that President Yoon Suk Yeol will come out of his official residence.

[Anchor]
I made some predictions while looking at the screen.Chief of Staff Jeong Jin-seok and Attorney Yoon Gap-geun opened the door in front of the official residence. It is said to be inside the official residence with the least amount of staff and police personnel. It was about 25 minutes ago. It was expected that negotiations on the execution of arrest warrants would be taking place inside the site, but there is now a message from the site that President Yoon Suk Yeol is likely to come out of his official residence soon.

[Anchor]
A little while ago, the third gate, so you can think of the inside of that gate as the presidential residence. That door opened and it was confirmed that two security vehicles were moving outside from the inside. And after that, we have news from an on-site reporter who said that President Yoon Suk Yeol is likely to come out of his official residence soon.

[Park Sang Kyu]
In my view, if President Yoon comes out of his official residence, he will respond to the execution of an arrest warrant, and there have been some messages about it. They say they took handcuffs with them, but they won't do that. You won't be able to see him handcuffed on this live screen. And I don't think he will expose himself to the media. What that means is that we will probably move to the investigation room of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit in a form where only the vehicle is visible. And as I said, I will not respond to the investigation by using the right to refuse to make a statement. Then, the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit has to request an arrest warrant through the results of the investigation within 48 hours or go like this. That part will be the next step, but why don't we go in the order of responding to the investigation as the investigation takes place anyway? If the message of the on-site reporter was that way, it is very calm now.

I don't think there will be any physical conflict by the troops themselves. You've already come forward. Because Acting President Choi Sang-mok made a position. There should not be any form of physical conflict between state agencies. In the event of such a physical conflict, either side will be held sternly responsible. This would have been taken as a practical warning to the police, the airborne and the security services. So, should this happen to President Yoon, who is watching this, that public officials trying to fulfill their duty among state agencies get hurt? That's what they would think. If so, responding to an arrest warrant doesn't mean you're being arrested and taken away as the street says.

By responding, it is an investigation in which there is a legal dispute while being investigated. Don't you talk about the illegality of the warrant itself? Of course, it's an argument, but I'll argue about that. So even if I am investigated, I think I will go that way because lawyer Yoon Gap-geun has already said that he will not respond to the investigation by using the right to refuse to make a statement.

[Anchor]
What do you think from the professor's point of view? President Yoon Suk Yeol is expected to come out of his official residence, so would this be a form of arrest?

[Choi Chang Ryul]
It's a form of arrest. I went to execute an arrest warrant, but I'm going to arrest him. I had to make an arrest, but he didn't respond to the arrest. It was a defiance of the state's public power. To put it seriously, the state's public power is the state's power. They resisted the execution of state power. I don't think this was caused by my status as a sitting president. In the end, President Yoon feels limited. I think it's appropriate to express that you're responding to an arrest warrant. It goes without saying that you're being dragged out, and it's unnecessary. Public power, respond to the execution of arrest warrants. I think this is a legal expression.

[Anchor]
At this time, the front of the official residence is shown through YTN's exclusive screen. As the reporters in the field informed us a while ago, the current situation is understood that President Yoon Suk Yeol is expected to come out of his official residence soon. President Yoon Suk Yeol's arrest has not yet been confirmed. We've just confirmed that the least amount of personnel have passed through the post inside the official residence with the president's chief of staff and lawyers for Yoon Gap-geun, so it's a presumption of what kind of conversation has taken place inside since then.Ma is understood to be a conversation and is being made toward arrest.

[Park Sang Kyu]
We need to use the term arrest well. In English, it's about arresting new recruits. As you said earlier, if you respond to the execution of an arrest warrant, it's not about who's taking who, but I've argued that I'm the one who is controversial about the arrest warrant, but it's no longer that the number of security agents has been reduced to 500, compared to more than 700.
and Deputy Chief Kim Sung-hoon and Chief of Security Lee Kwang-woo, the 2nd-in-command of the Security Service.

[Anchor]
The gate is opening once again. This time, it's a vehicle that goes from the outside to the inside.

[Park Sang Kyu]
If you look at that car, it looks like it belongs to the security service. Doesn't the outfit itself look like a security guard's car?

[Anchor]
I saw people moving quickly. A large SUV moves along the way, and that vehicle is considered a security guard vehicle.

[Park Sang Kyu]
How I estimate it is that even if you move to the security service in Gwacheon, you have to go to the presidential security service.

[Anchor]
The car turned around. The door is opening again and going out.

[Park Sang Kyu]
What that means is that when a few vehicles go to a convoy, the president has to go in a convoy. I'm taking a convoy from the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit because I'm responding to the execution of the warrant. However, since the incumbent president is moving, the security agency has to protect him. You have to do it even during the convoy. I understand that it is the preparation of the security staff to escort the security service vehicle.

[Choi Chang Ryul]
I think it's almost certain that the president will be arrested. As critic Park said, it feels like the security office is busy. I think that's because of the president's security.

[Anchor]
Including this vehicle, about three or four cars came from inside to outside.

[Choi Chang Ryul]
It feels like I'm preparing in advance.

[Park Sang Kyu]
The convoy itself is carried out by the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, but as you said, the procedure for the arrest warrant is so you can't go to the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit by car. However, if the car in which the president is riding moves in it, you don't know what will happen, so the presidential security agency must carry it out and protect it. It seems to be that vehicle and I think it's not the preparation of the agents, so I have no choice but to see it that way.

[Anchor]
Yesterday, Presidential Chief of Staff Jeong Jin-seok mentioned that a visit survey to a third place is possible, but didn't the president actually reject that? At the same time, I expected to go head-to-head. Hours after the execution of the arrest warrant began today, there is a breaking news that the president will soon come out of his official residence. How should I look at this?

[Choi Chang Ryul]
Since it has not been confirmed whether this will be arrested or not, we can't predict it carelessly, but the situation is like that for about 10 minutes now. I think he will respond to the arrest, but I think Chief of Staff Jeong Jin-seok was the last to talk about his position. I don't know if it was discussed with the presidential office or not, but the investigation of the third place itself was a nuance that the presidential office or lawyer Yoon Gap-geun strongly rejected. I understand the position of the presidential chief of staff, but there is no such discussion. I was talking about this, but it was a story in itself. No matter how much I look at it, I think this execution will be more gentle than I thought. Nothing is right for lawyer Yoon Gap-geun or the president to say. There is no justification and no justification. What the hell are you going to do? Because it was in this situation, I think that the story itself was meaningless.

And I'll have to see it in the end. Okay.Ma is bound to be arrested, isn't he? When some executed the arrest warrant last time, it was January 3rd. The president hid somewhere. I thought it was unimaginable. In the end, the president is willing to respond. Would you have left your official residence otherwise?

[Park Sang Kyu]
I think the process will be like this in the future. The 48-hour clock runs from the time you respond to the warrant execution. If that happens, I think the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit will go to the stage of requesting an arrest warrant against the president in two days. In that case, the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit can't do it. Any action that could eventually lead to prosecution, although the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit claims it can, must be handed over to the prosecution again. So there was a lot of controversy over the request and issuance of an arrest warrant this time. So anyway, regardless of the legal controversy, if it is executed, I don't know what this expression would be like, where all sides can really agree from the stage of requesting and issuing an arrest warrant.Ma should go to a flawless procedure. While saying that we really need to go to the new process, in that case, the police who have the right to prosecute, and even if they investigate, they are no longer the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit. It's about the charge of rebellion, the charge of rebellion. This is not the job of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, but the controversy, which has long been ignited by the prosecution when the police investigate and prosecute, has been eased. And aren't you saying that the National Assembly's special prosecutor has also come up with a proposal from the ruling party?

Let's remove the so-called "talking foreign exchange attraction crime" and do it with the special prosecution to make a clean bill. However, the opposition party and the Democratic Party of Korea will have to see the contents, but they will not oppose such contents unconditionally. So, if an agreement is reached, all of these procedures eventually have to go to the National Assembly Special Prosecutor's Office. It's a procedure to go to the National Assembly Special Prosecutor's Office. I think the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit will play a role for about two days on the premise that the warrant will be executed today.

[Anchor]
I'll organize it for a moment. Lawyer Seok Dong-hyun, who is now known to be joining the president's lawyers, said that the current president of Yoon Suk Yeol has not yet been arrested. And our reporters are now understanding that lawyer Seok Dong-hyun is discussing voluntary attendance with the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit for fear of conflict between the two sides. Amid predictions that Yoon Suk Yeol will soon come out of his official residence, lawyer Seok Dong-hyun said that Yoon Suk Yeol has not yet been arrested. He said he is discussing voluntary attendance with the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit for fear of clashes with the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, police and security agencies.

[Choi Chang Ryul]
I think the fact that you are in talks with the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit for voluntary attendance is an explicit expression that you will fully respond. In that sense, the fact that lawyer Seok Dong-hyun has not been arrested yet means that he will be arrested soon. It seems that the story almost goes that way. Isn't President Yoon the leader of the civil war anyway? In principle, the crime of rebellion is based on an arrest investigation. An arrest warrant is an arrest warrant that cannot be delayed for more than 48 hours. Then I'll probably go to an arrest warrant. So we don't know whether the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit will request a warrant or the prosecution. First of all, I think there is a high possibility that the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit will do it, because they investigated it. The investigation itself is whether the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit will hand over the investigation to the police in the future.

Another issue is under investigation, so if the independent counsel is agreed upon and the independent counsel law is passed, I don't know the situation then, but I don't think the independent counsel will be easy to reach an agreement between the ruling and opposition parties, at least in my opinion. The independent counsel is working on a plan by the ruling party.Ma didn't even propose it. I'm making it, but I think this was actually a strategy to delay the arrest warrant. However, if the arrest warrant is executed, there is a high possibility that the ruling party will not cooperate very much with the special prosecutor. This situation itself is.

[Anchor]
In the meantime, the President of Yoon Suk Yeol has continued to emphasize the illegality of the arrest warrant. It is also illegal for the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit to investigate. I've been saying that it's not against the law. At the same time, he said he would respond if he requested an arrest warrant. But what kind of intention should I see it as saying that I will comply with the arrest warrant today?

[Park Sang Kyu]
As I said earlier, in conducting this investigation, the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit can only investigate allegations of abuse of authority in the case of high-ranking officials, especially the President. However, he extended the charge of issuing this on the grounds that he could also make related charges, and requested an arrest warrant this time, and he was issued twice. If so, there are various controversies that the letter related to it gives rise to. So, as I said earlier, the National Assembly Special Prosecutor has no significance. If it is passed and accepted. Originally, it is right for the ruling and opposition parties to agree that it is a special prosecutor. It can be seen as the arrogance of the Democratic Party to say that regardless of the ruling and opposition parties' agreement.

These important issues should be discussed as much as possible. That will be a matter of later life, but it's definitely the police who have the right to investigate, the charge of rebellion. So, if we do the investigation this time, the police should do it until it is handed over to the special prosecutor, and if we want to prosecute, we should no longer think that I can lead everything with the results of the police investigation that has the right to prosecute. There is a lot of controversy, so I can't help but think that it is too much for the Senior Deputy Director Oh Dong-woon to take the arrest warrant with everything on his own. So, I would like to say that an investigative agency without controversy should do it, and the subject without controversy should prosecute it and eventually go to the National Assembly's special prosecutor.

[Anchor]
To summarize the situation at this time again, the screen you are looking at the post in front of the official residence. The white building on the right is a guard post. You can think of it as the door on the left. Seok Dong-hyun, a lawyer for the president of Yoon Suk Yeol, is discussing voluntary attendance with the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit for fear of a clash between the two sides. President Yoon Suk Yeol has not been arrested yet, he said. If so, if you listen to the two of them now, if an arrest is made, the airborne and police vehicles will have to go inside from the outside, but there are no separate vehicles. Since it is said that they will discuss voluntary attendance with the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, attention is being paid to how they will come out of their official residence. What do you think of the professor?

[Choi Chang Ryul]
The car isn't going in yet. The airlift and police vehicles on this side are not going in yet. I'm not trying to enforce it. Seeing that they are discussing voluntary attendance, I think the car will go in after the negotiations are over. I don't think that's why the vehicle is not entering yet in this situation. Negotiations seem to be underway to respond to armed conflicts without any noise as much as possible. That's why the car hasn't entered yet.

[Park Sang Kyu]
I can't see any of the security guards left at the scene. It's neat. Even now, two people are going inside, and that's already a big deal, or this is all done. I think there's a situation left to clear up now. That's why there's no reason to stay at the front gate. Because if there is a different situation at the front door and it looks like it will be physically done, that situation will not be that chaotic. The main gate is clean. The story is roughly over, so I look at it like this. Lawyer Seok Dong-hyun probably told me on the phone in a hurry earlier, but it's an old saying that he's not yet arrested, in English. But I think it's an indication that it could be soon.

[Anchor]
I'm showing it on the screen, but I'm showing it to this person. The right side is the government office at this time. On the left, you see a mix of rally personnel in front of the official residence and police personnel who are maintaining order controlling traffic.

[Anchor]
President Yoon Suk Yeol is expected to come out of his official residence in a little while. At this time, I'm showing you the inside of my official residence once again. A vehicle that appears to be a security vehicle is waiting in front of you. After a while, President Yoon Suk Yeol is expected to come out of his official residence and move with the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit.

[Park Sang Kyu]
Those cars don't look inside, they're looking outside with the lights on. That horse is facing the outside. It means that the security services vehicles are getting ready to go outside. As I said, if the president moves to the airborne office, he has to protect him. I can see that I'm preparing for that security. Isn't there a red light on that vehicle and that the vehicle on the left is on and ready? The engine was also on. That means it's imminent.