Kim Jae-won, "Tell me directly that 尹 is difficult to investigate fraudulent elections unless it is an emergency martial law."

[YTN radio news fighting]

□ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (07:15-09:00)
□ Broadcast date and time: January 17, 2025 (Fri)
□ Host: Kim Woo-sung PD
□ Cast member: Kim Jae-won, Supreme Council member of the People's Power

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◆ Producer Kim Woo-sung (hereinafter referred to as Kim Woo-sung): It's a market in the morning. I heard the sound of a knife tapping the cutting board. Is it a chef's knife, a surgeon's knife, or a longevity knife? I'm a person who analyzes the current issue sharply today, but warmly. Kim Jae-won, former member of the Supreme Council of Power of the People, came to the news war. Welcome, Mr. Choi.

◇ Kim Jae-won, former member of the National Power Supreme Council (hereinafter referred to as Kim Jae-won): Hello.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: You're getting so many questions and answering them, but the arrest warrant has been executed. The opposition leader is a person who stands on the other side of politics, but he also said it was a pity, and many people looked at the scene with pity. The process of the arrest on that day and the legality of the arrest was rejected again yesterday. How do you see this situation?

◇ Kim Jae-won: First of all, I personally insisted that President Yoon Suk Yeol should recruit him from our conservative camp and make him a presidential candidate since he was the prosecutor general, and I actually played a role in getting President Yoon to join our party by insisting that we should take the hands of the devil and go out with a change of government. After that, I was elected president and helped him while serving as president, but watching the scene where the president was arrested, I had mixed feelings. However, in any case, law enforcement should be equal before everyone, so in this regard, I thought it was my duty to ensure that it was executed again to suit the law. However, regarding the validity of the arrest warrant, the process of requesting the arrest warrant, and the investigative power of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, I still believe that the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit should withdraw from the investigation of this case, and I think it is a big mistake to request and execute the arrest warrant in violation of its jurisdiction. But when I saw reports that President Yoon Suk Yeol's lawyers had filed for an arrest suit, it was very different. If an emergency arrest is made and the investigative agency judges themselves and makes an arrest, the arrest suitability may be sufficient, but the arrest under the arrest warrant already issued by the court is rarely illegal by arrest suitability. And the other thing is that the time limit is only 48 hours, so there's not much real benefit to apply for an arrest suit and dismiss it. So, since the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit immediately requests an arrest warrant, there is often a warrant review for the suspect's interrogation before arrest. In the substantive examination of the examination warrant, this is because the requirements for arrest and arrest are completely different, so I think it's right to fight properly at that time.

◇ Kim Jae-won: But of course, procedurally, I think the execution of the arrest warrant is wrong, so there is room for a fight, but I think it was much more effective to wait a little longer and fight properly as soon as the arrest warrant is requested.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: What should I say on behalf of the warrant's substantive examination?

◇ Kim Jae-won: First of all, this is not a matter of arrest or detention of the president. There is no significance of restraint. And there's no fear of evidence destruction. For example, there is a logic that says, "What if the defense minister and each commander who executed the president's order are all arrested in the declaration of emergency martial law, and the president who issued that order is the head of the state is not arrested?" However, Lee Jae-myung, who made North Korea pay funds to North Korea through Gyeonggi Province Governor Lee Hwa-young with the money of Chairman Kim Sung-tae, has already been sentenced to heavy punishment. Nevertheless, CEO Lee Jae-myung, the main culprit, is in custody, and Kim In-seop, Kim Man-bae, and Nam Wook, all of whom are involved in the Baekhyun-dong case, are in prison, but they are alone. It's actually more of a job. So this is not only a matter that the president has no fear of fleeing or destroying evidence, and this is a matter that needs to be argued a lot, but it is a basic principle to try without detention. So, in this respect, I would argue that it is right to arrest without detention, but the arrest warrant violated the jurisdiction of the arrest warrant because of the arrest suit. And then, the arrest warrant was made only with this claim that the reason for the arrest was that the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit did not have the right to investigate, so there was a slight difference in reasons.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: We have to talk about the arrest warrant and what we have dealt with in the arrest suit in the actual examination of the warrant, but some people are wondering if it will be disadvantageous in the warrant examination because they have been investigated first.

◇ Kim Jae-won: Of course, I don't think it will have much impact if the judge makes a normal judgment, but I'm a little disappointed in the hope that various lawyers will defend themselves a little better.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Kim Jae-won is also a lawyer. He went through the prosecution, analyzed various situations, and expected it. As mentioned earlier, you said that Kim Jae-won is the best person who led President Yoon Suk Yeol to become a candidate and president of the People's Power, but I knew that it was not a path of glory, but a path of punishment. There were letters like this and video messages. How did you feel when you saw that, Kim Jae-won?

◇ [Kim Jae-won] First of all, the video message was very good. I thought you made a lot of judgments as president right before you were arrested. But now, the message of the handwritten letter is that the president fully explained his position in the future impeachment trial and criminal trial, but he only mentioned the fraudulent election in relatively detail. But it was a little more detailed and detailed than what the people knew so far.

◆ [Kim Woo-sung] To be precise, there's also an expression that says, "If you join hands with the outside forces of sovereignty."

◇ Kim Jae-won: Yes, so I'm a very passive person who reacted very passively to the election fraud. I have doubts, but I have never taken the initiative to argue or do so on this matter. But if the president makes this argument, aren't there many people who have doubts about it now? Therefore, I think it is correct to investigate this issue clearly and conclude it during the impeachment trial or criminal trial process.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: After all, this was mentioned in the Constitutional Court and in the impeachment trial. Now is the second hearing preparation date, so will the court now deal with the authenticity of this part in the current trial and impeachment trial?

◇ [Kim Jae-won] I think that's what we should do. Because we can't just dismiss this as why we're talking about the futile story again. And let's say this was the main reason for the declaration of martial law, and that's why the President of the Republic of Korea is the most informed person. As I said earlier, I have doubts, but I have never mentioned it again with confidence or agreed on it. If the president cites it as the main content of declaring martial law, I think the issue should be confirmed during the impeachment trial and during the criminal trial.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: If the court disputes the authenticity and is covered, the position will change again. First of all, the NEC has no choice but to introduce the NEC's position here. The NEC said, "In principle, fraudulent elections are impossible. This is because voting papers are printed on the spot and observers of each party are also watching the process of hand-count work," but the president also argues that hacking and inadequacy are not possible.

◇ Kim Jae-won: Yes, and I just think what's more regrettable now is that if this kind of president had information, wouldn't it have been better if the president could have commanded the investigation agency so that, for example, the Minister of Public Administration and Security and the Minister of Justice could have formally investigated the case through investigation?

◆ Kim Woo-sung: A lot of people are curious about that. Wouldn't it be better to investigate if it was not an emergency martial law?

◇ Kim Jae-won: I had the opportunity to ask the president about the issue after the emergency decree was declared, so I wondered why there was a reason to check it through this emergency decree, but now the Election Commission is made up of all judges. The head of the Central Election Management Committee said that it is difficult to obtain a search warrant or investigate because the Supreme Court and the head of the election management committee at each level consist of a court chief, a letter of application, and a judge. However, even if I personally did, I said at the time that it was right to be investigated, and I still think so.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, I think this is a good new news that our program told us. There is something the impeachment committee said on the date of the pleading. Defining President Yoon as the enemy of the Constitution and democracy, he called for his prompt dismissal. Chung Chung-rae, a member of the impeachment committee, said this, how did you see it?

◇ Kim Jae-won: Of course, the president is impeached right now and the leadership of the country is in a state of collapse. Various scenes that were shown during the president's arrest process, and the prosecutor of that Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, when entering the presidential residence, is controversial over how the 55th Guard Corps commander's seal was signed. If I say this order, I wonder if it's okay to go like this because it's not anarchy. If something like that happens, an investigation should be started immediately and a judgment should be made, but no one raises the issue, right? In that state, I think it's necessary to decide quickly whether the president will leave or not.At the same time, this is a very important issue. Therefore, it is also necessary to make a decision after the facts are revealed without any suspicion. Moreover, it is an issue that the whole nation is watching, and it should not end in a hasty manner.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, polling companies such as Embrain Public, K Stat Research, Korea Research, and Korea Research conducted and announced 15 voters from the 13th to the 15th. This is a phone interview using a virtual number. The Democratic Party of Korea's approval rating has exceeded from 33% to 35% of the public's approval rating. Are the people cheering for the power of the people again? Or about Chairman Lee Jae-myung or the Democratic Party. Is it some sort of conservative rally? What do you think?

◇ [Kim Jae-won] On that part. I think singer Na Hoon-ah recently made the most accurate evaluation. You're talking about the left arm and the right arm. Right hand, it's your fault. By the way, did your left arm do well? I think that kind of psychology is very prevalent in the people right now. Since the Democratic Party is not aware of this public sentiment and is willing to file a complaint against a polling company, I think the Democratic Party will fall even more than it is now.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: The Democratic Party will crash. You also said this. It's still too early to talk about the presidential election, but at this point, there are all concerns about the early presidential election. Minister Kim Moon-soo stands out. What's the atmosphere like in the party? Minister Kim Moon-soo can hold a presidential election. This kind of judgment?

◇ Kim Jae-won: As a presidential candidate for our party so far, no one can declare their candidacy. In the party that produced the president, but if there is an early presidential election now, it must not be an easy election, right? So, not only the incumbent minister, Seoul Mayor Oh Se-hoon, Hong Joon Pyo, Daegu Mayor, Busan Mayor Park Hyung-joon, and Chungnam Governor Kim Tae-heum, but also all past party leaders, Won Hee-ryong and Na Kyung-won, all participate in the party's primary and select a good candidate, and at least if the other party is Chairman Lee Jae-myung, we can win unconditionally.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: If the other party is representative Lee Jae-myung, you will win no matter what?

◇ Kim Jae-won: Dealing with Lee Jae-myung will be the easiest election and I think it will be a winnable election. And we will never meet a candidate like CEO Lee Jae-myung again.

◆ [Kim Woo-sung] It was a metaphorical expression. The independent counsel for the rebellion found some contact between the ruling and opposition parties. Floor leader Kwon Sung-dong was a little teary just because he can't stop the special prosecution unconditionally, but will it be resolved? Please give me a short look.

◇ Kim Jae-won: If the Democratic Party really tries to find out whether the crime of rebellion is established or how far the crime of rebellion is established through this special prosecutor, then it can be a compromise. If the Democratic Party uses this special prosecutor to use the special prosecutor to plot a political scheme and gain political reflection benefits, it's hard to reach a settlement. Basically, the special prosecutor will investigate in a fair, objective and transparent way to resolve suspicions to the people and enforce the law fairly and fairly, but that is not seen by the Democratic Party.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: In the meantime, there are also calls for the Special Prosecutor's Act on Kim or the ban on her leaving the country. Please say something.

◇ Kim Jae-won: Isn't it time to stop? That's enough. You're making a claim like some kind of personal vendetta, aren't you? Rep. Park Ji-won is making a logic like, "What on earth did you do to Professor Chung Kyung-sim, the wife of the representative of the country?" and making an argument like this with eyes. I really don't think this is an independent counsel to discover the truth in the normal legal structure.

◆ Kim Woo-sung: So far, Kim Jae-won, the supreme council member of the nation's power. Thank you.