□ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (07:15-09:00)
□ Broadcast date and time: January 17, 2025 (Fri)
□ Host: Kim Woo-sung PD
□ Castor: Ahn Kyu-baek, member of the Democratic Party of Korea
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◆ PD Kim Woosung (hereinafter referred to as Kim Woosung): Let's continue with the issue interview. He is the chairman of the Special Committee on the Investigation of the State Affairs Investigation into the Alleged Insurrection. As I told you, you came to the Democratic Party of Korea lawmaker Ahn Kyu-baek's studio. Please come in.
◇ Rep. Ahn Kyu-baek of the Democratic Party (hereinafter referred to as Ahn Kyu-baek): Yes, nice to meet you. It's Ahn Kyu-baek.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, you've done so many activities at the National Defense Commission. Some people misunderstand it as a military general, but he is not a military general who has been active in the National Defense Commission for a long time. However, there are many military-related matters because you are also in charge of the special committee to investigate the allegations of rebellion. Perhaps the lawmaker's expertise will be demonstrated a lot, but in these various investigations, President Yoon was arrested and his arrest suitability was rejected. They are refusing to investigate. How do you judge it?
◇ Ahn Kyu-baek: We judge now that President Yoon is playing with the law with the defense rights guaranteed by the law.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: He's playing with the law.
◇ Ahn Kyu-baek: The loopholes of the law and this person who knows the law well is the so-called legal fees. I think it's a situation in which the law is being manipulated while taking the form of a Buddhist monkfish. If you look at things like this after requesting the legality of an arrest warrant and then attending again and not attending again, I think you are playing with the law.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: I think it will lead to a request for an arrest warrant. The legality of the arrest suit was also rejected, but there are also objections such as whether there is a reason to arrest him because he is an incumbent president in the actual examination of the warrant. What do you think?
◇ Ahn Kyu-baek: Isn't it probably a rebellion monster right now? Insurrection workers, or important performers, or important mission workers, have more than 11 leaders arrested by the military and police, so I think that if the reason for their arrest is more serious and not light, an arrest warrant will be issued.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, it's a legal term as the head of the group because all the workers of the alleged rebellion are already under arrest. President Yoon Suk Yeol, who is the head of the group, will be arrested. However, as Kim Jae-won said earlier, if we lose like that, CEO Lee Jae-myung was also arrested in related trials, including Deputy Governor Lee Hwa-young and lawyer Nam Wook, but he was not arrested, according to the logic of
◇ Ahn Kyu-baek: It's a leap of logic. Isn't this a rebellion that puts the country in danger and loses its national dignity as the situation and times are the times? The crime of rebellion is also subject to prosecution by the incumbent president. Regarding the civil war and foreign exchange, the incumbent president is also supposed to prosecute these two titles. As such, the situation is serious, and it is a serious and heavy crime. So that's exactly what I'm thinking.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, if you look at the letters written by the president himself and the videos before his arrest, they are talking about fraudulent elections, and unlike previous stories about alleged fraudulent elections, they are talking about international solidarity and cooperation when they join hands with external sovereignty. And in various passports, if the president says this, there's nothing to it. He's now the chairman of the fact-finding committee.
◇ Ahn Kyu-baek: The president seems to be immersed in far-right YouTubers, not ordinary common sense, and only sees his own phenomenon of falling into any dogma. When I went to Sweden five years ago, I personally heard that the Swedish Election Commission wanted to learn the Korean election system. Our election system is very advanced and global. But if the election is illegal in itself, it means that it is illegal because I was elected in the presidential election two years and seven months ago with the election system and system at that time. Then, the organization that should be re-examined and called illegal is the Democratic Party of Korea. It's absurd because I lost to 0.7% unfairly.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: The President could have won by a bigger margin, not by 0.7%. Like this,
◇ Ahn Kyu-baek: And after 2002, the Roh Moo Hyun government came in and the election system became very clean. When ordinary party members eat, they pay 10,000 won each to eat, and there was no such case in the past. All election systems, wind, soil culture, this is very advanced, but the president himself thinks it's illegal, illegal, and unbelievable.
◆ [Kim Woosung] Okay. An external force or, in fact, a reporter from Hong Kong, China, was also attacked. What do you think of the claim of connection with these external forces on the day of arrest? Since the president said that, everyone would be briefed on the NIS and the defense minister, but he's saying it like that.
◇ Ahn Kyu-baek: That seems to me. I'm thinking that he's working through that human information human.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: President Yoon's side?
◇ Ahn Kyu-baek: Because don't our intelligence agents have human rights? It is true that human information is in contact with them and doing various things. It's true, but there's no room for even 0.001% of such a gap to enter. Regarding the election system, system and various maneuvers, I am confident that the Republic of Korea is the world's leading country in elections.
◆ [Kim Woo-sung] Yes, I see.
◇ Ahn Kyu-baek: And there's an observer at this election counting room, and he counts by hand, and he keeps it on the machine, and he keeps it for four years. That is why there is no gap between irregularities and corruption.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Officials are attending the National Assembly Special Committee again, generals and former Prime Minister Han Deok-soo are talking about various things. The decree is said to be one of the most important evidence of unconstitutionality in the Constitutional Court. President Yoon Suk Yeol said in the past that former Minister Kim Yong-hyun made a mistake because he mistakenly took away the decree when the president had the right to dissolve the parliament, but former Minister Kim Yong-hyun did not make a mistake. It is right to ban political activities in the parliament as it is. This is the conflict between the president and former minister Kim Yong-hyun. You're the chairman of the National Assembly Special Committee. What's the situation?
◇ Ahn Kyu-baek: I don't think it's updated since the coup after the 12.12 military revolt. But it's absurd to use it as an excuse that it hasn't been updated. Isn't everyone already an expert on law? Aren't you a law expert? Since the National Assembly is the last bastion of democracy in any case, the legislature is not allowed to invade even if martial law is declared. However, one of the most important points this time is that after declaring martial law on December 3, a heavily armed soldier invaded the National Assembly.
◆ [Kim Woo-sung] It was broadcast live.
◇ Ahn Kyu-baek: And the most important thing is that our intelligence agents and counterintelligence agents went there and tried to steal the server and infiltrated the constitutional agency, the National Election Commission. This means a constitutional suspension. That's why he's the heaviest one among the crimes of rebellion.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: I tried to block the power of Parliament. I tried to make it stop.
◇ Ahn Kyu-baek: And this is a joint exercise at our Joint Chiefs of Staff once a year in relation to martial law. Former Minister Kim Yong-hyun probably continued to report this to the president because he has been updating the coalition every time. I don't know if someone might have said anything else after that, but it's completely different from the content. It's different from the fact. I can tell you that it's different from the truth. Because in itself, don't you say that the president has committed illegality now? I believe that he has committed illegality and increased legislation, so that he has not responded to the investigation of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Service and has been unfaithful to the request for an arrest warrant or a court warrant, and that he has committed illegal acts and violations, so he is not coming out because he is not present and has exercised the right to remain silent.
◆ [Kim Woo-sung] Yes, I see. You summarized it in the sense that the center of illegal activities is rather the president's side, but what you just said will be viewed as evidence by the Constitutional Court now. I talked about the constitutional trial and the impeachment trial process, but the soldiers did not carry live ammunition, and the president went to maintain order. It's about the lawyer. Protesters gathered in an hour, so soldiers were sent in to maintain order. In the case of Rep. Park Sun-won, who was at the NIS in the same party, there was a debate about whether he came to suppress various Taser guns or shotguns. It will also be covered by the National Assembly Special Committee. Which one?
◇ Ahn Kyu-baek: The list said that the 14 preferred arrest groups from counterintelligence agents were Lee Jae-myung, representative Han Dong-hoon, and chairman Woo Won-sik. Then there are 13 arrest groups. It's indicated that you need some kind of weapon to arrest them. And now, the first 80,000 shots and 8.08 million dollars were ejected, and then 50,000 shots that were omitted from Ilgongsu are shown in the prosecution's indictment as 127,000. There are 180,000 shots identified by lawmaker Min Hong-chul again the day before yesterday. But our 12. 3 When martial law was declared and then it was ejected from the ammunition depot, we stormed the National Assembly and the Constitutional Court's Central Election Commission to use it, and would we have brought it out as an accessory? Would you have brought it out to see it?
◇ Ahn Kyu-baek: That doesn't make sense and it's a threat, so I asked Vice Minister Kim Soon-ho at the National Assembly Special Committee yesterday to investigate this clearly and report it.
◆ [Kim Woosung] Okay. Now, as the acting defense minister and the chairman of the special parliamentary investigation committee.
◇ Ahn Kyu-baek: So it was wearing these live ammunition, rubber bullets, grenades, and so on that day, our soldiers were young at the scene, and they were wearing platforms and night vision goggles
◆ [Kim Woosung] Yes, yes. Wear tactical gear
◇ Ahn Kyu-baek: I came here with a mind to do a single Danjeon, so how about my heart when I set the budget and our military sees it when the person who worked hard for modern work?
◆ Member of Parliament (MP)
◇ Ahn Kyu-baek: I felt like I was falling apart.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: I was supposed to distribute the budget for night vision, but I wore it to the National Assembly
◇ Ahn Kyu-baek: I tried to assign it first, but when I saw Han wearing it, what would I have felt in that underground passage?
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Now, you've said this, but for now, President Yoon Suk Yeol is refusing to investigate. It is known that he does not respond to the request to attend the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit at 10 o'clock today, but the ruling and opposition parties have reached some agreement. The Supreme Court's recommendation is also true, but there are still disagreements about the various periods and reduction of manpower after excluding foreign exchange charges. Can this be agreed upon? What do you think?
◇ Ahn Kyu-baek: I am in a severe national situation at this time and quite anxious both internally and externally
Because the factors fluctuate, I think we should reach an agreement in any case. We must reach an agreement. Yes, until now, the ruling party of the People's Power has not proposed a proposal for the special prosecution, but I think it is regrettable that it has come out now. Yes, if the foreign exchange crime issue becomes an issue, I think it's a matter that can be made concessions in the process of giving and receiving during the negotiation process. However, in order to induce North Korea's local provocation, the NLL on board Baengnyeong Island induces North Korea's guided invasion. They send waste again. So wasn't Kim Young-eun in the prosecution's indictment saying to hit the ground zero against Special Forces Commander Kwak Jong-geun or Defense Commander Lee Jin-woo?
◇ Ahn Kyu-baek: That means that there is a scheme to induce North Korea to attack in order to legalize the purpose of rebellion, so to legalize martial law for the purpose of declaring it, we believe that it is not the case in the power of the people now, so it is right to go to the train first because it will be revealed later. So, even if we make some concessions, we need to reach a compromise and quickly find out about this conflict. This is how you judge it. the opposition party
◆ Kim Woo-sung: To say that the party should launch an independent counsel anyway, even if it makes some concessions,
◇ Ahn Kyu-baek: Until now, we've been putting it off, putting it off, making excuses, and not having the power of the people, haven't we?
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Regarding North Korea, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff did not do that even if the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff was appointed, and there was an order to strike the original, but it was not implemented in the Joint Chiefs of Staff. I blocked it because I would follow the manual. I also said it in the national anthem.
◇ Ahn Kyu-baek: Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Kim Myung-soo is an abominable story.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: It's abominable. Why?
◇ Ahn Kyu-baek: If you were the top leader of the military, you should have prevented martial law. I didn't say anything at the time, but now I'm going to bet my job. I didn't say that. During the December 12 military revolt, Army General Jeong Seung-hwa, Jang Tae-hwan, and Jang Tae-hwan, the commander of the water defense command Kim Jin, me, Kim Jin-gi, what is that? The military police who blocked the coup blocked them, so they risked their lives and blocked them with their whole body, didn't they? There should be at least one or two of these generals. Didn't they think it was a coup d'état rebellion in the new army coup d'état and stop it with their whole bodies because these men were stirring up coup d'état? There should be soldiers like that. I'm going to bet my job now. Someone won't say it anymore. I see.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: There are many suspicions coming out from time to time, but the security service recently received a lot of attention during the arrest of President Yoon Suk Yeol, and it's the title of an article about a birthday party. SBS and Financial News reported that while participating in Yoon Beer, he asked his bodyguards to sing his birthday song, and now he's on a special investigation committee. Do you have any plans to research related content?
◇ Ahn Kyu-baek: Yes, the new massage was mentioned before that. I don't think it's newsworthy because there are so many unusual things going on. The news sees the news cover the news. Because President Yoon has done too many things that overturn common sense. It's a heartbreaking story.Ma has done too much common sense in general, so I think there is probably no end to the limit.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Rep. Choo Mi-ae said Kim Gun-hee held an event with acquaintances on a naval vessel. He also claimed this suspicion. Democrats are getting a lot of information right now. It's being reported like this. There are many people who are curious about the evidence or the credibility of the report. Kim Gun-hee's party app is also called
◇ Ahn Kyu-baek: I saw the original picture of it. Because I saw the party picture, I saw the picture on the ship because it was fishy on the sea, so it wasn't fake news, but we got a report and checked it, and that's how we present and reveal it. However, in order to protect the source, it is just not possible to retaliate again.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, I said that I saw the photo of the candidate for the source. Also, the special committee will continue to broadcast it live on YTN and YTN radio. When the content comes out, we'll share it with you. I'll say something big first. First of all, the investigation into the impeachment trial of President Yoon Suk Yeol and the alleged brainstorm is underway, and there are also talks about the structure of looking at the next presidential election. We talked about it earlier in a poll conducted by four research institutes, Embrain Perflick Cast Research Korea Research Korea Research, conducted by telephone interviews. 35% of the people's power and 33% of the Democratic Party of Korea's support for political parties came out. For more information, you can refer to the website of the National Election Poll Review Committee, not because the power of the people is good, but the members of the people's power also tell them. They say that they don't like the Democratic Party of Korea, so they're going up.
◇ Ahn Kyu-baek: I think so. There are two things. There are many conservatives in the conservatives. Yes, and the conservatives' level of unity is a bit high. This is the active participation of opinion polls from the conservatives. To be precise, out of 1,000 people, 297 participated in November, and 276 participated in the third week of December right after impeachment.In the third week of January, when I analyzed it, it increased to 344. Yes, and it is noticeable that the number of strong participants has increased. Yes, so a person named Kim Moon-soo suddenly popped up. This is very popular among the conservatives that Jung Kwang-hoon does. So wouldn't Minister Kim Moon-soo come up to 15%? This is about the participation rate for far-right groups, so in a way, this is a crazy time, so if this calming phase fades a little, there will probably be polls in ordinary times.
◆ Kim Woosung: We
◇ Ahn Kyu-baek: In order to do so, we will do our best to restore the people's livelihood and public trust.
◆ [Kim Woosung] Okay. Now, Kwon Young-se, chairman of the emergency committee, said, "President Yoon's procedure is KTX. Representative Lee Jae-myung's trial is a complete train. I think this is also a message that recognizes the party's approval rating. What is the Democratic Party's position on this point?
◇ Ahn Kyu-baek: I'm a president of the People's Power of that party, so I think it's best not to give a reason or an excuse now. What can you guarantee that you have a lot to say? It's causing chaos in this country, and today I see the exchange rate is like this. It is unstable and the increase of 40 won or 30 won is the reason for the civil war. All the evaluations are coming out and the analysis is
◆ Kim Woo-sung: The governor who wears it is about KRW 30
◇ Ahn Kyu-baek: Aren't you saying about 30 won like that? In this edition, I think that it is the position and position they should be in to kneel down and wait for the four of them.
◆ [Kim Woosung] Okay. We'll take you to the studio often for more information and ask you about it over the phone. Thank you for talking today.
◇ Ahn Kyu-baek: Yes, please call me more often.
◆ Kim Woo-sung: Yes, you are the chairman of the special committee on the investigation of the allegations of civil war, right? It was Ahn Kyu-baek of the Democratic Party of Korea.
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