Yoon, the warrant examination is in attendance...the first crossroads of confinement for a sitting president

■ Host: Lee Yeo-jin, anchor Jeong Chae-woon
■ Starring: Kang Sung-pil, deputy spokesperson of the Democratic Party of Korea, lawyer Seo Jeong-wook

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[Anchor]
President Yoon Suk Yeol will attend the actual examination of the arrest warrant, which will begin at 2 p.m. soon.

President Yoon, who is at the crossroads of arrest as the first incumbent president, is also closely watching the political circles. Attorney Seo Jeong-wook and Minjoo Party deputy spokesperson Kang Sung-pil will join you. Welcome.

Yesterday, a lawyer Bae Jin-han said after meeting with President Yoon that he would not comply with the warrant review conducted by the Western District Court, but later changed his words that he needed to think more about it. President Yoon reversed his position this morning, saying he would attend in person. What's the reason?

[Jungwook Seo]
I analyze in two ways, and one is that there are two people in charge of warrants in the West. Manager Lee and then manager Shin. But the two were originally judges like this who issued arrest warrants or extended them. So if the judges reviewed the arrest warrant again, the scene was not fair. But surprisingly, since the judge on duty does it, this judge is the third judge who was not involved in the arrest warrant. Therefore, there is an evaluation that the evaluation of Judge Lee is quite objective and faithful to the principles. So the first is a new judge, not the two who issued arrest warrants. So you need to go out and explain yourself. This is the first reason. The defense team also persuaded them quite a bit because they have to actively exercise their defense rights. It's true that if you don't go out, the possibility of issuance increases. Therefore, if you go out and explain yourself, the possibility of being rejected is a little higher, so I think you will attend for two reasons.

[Anchor]
Will it be advantageous for the suspect to attend in person?

[Kang Sungpil]
First of all, the fact that the suspect does not participate in the actual examination of the arrest warrant means that in most cases, he acknowledges his or her guilt and reflects on it. That's why you think Yoon Suk Yeol's president is misunderstood as being in the same position as a criminal who admits his guilt. And secondly, wasn't President Yoon Suk Yeol eventually arrested for not cooperating with the investigative agency and refusing to execute the arrest warrant? So, as many people point out that President Yoon Suk Yeol has abandoned his duty to protect the Constitution in the whole country, and in that situation, wouldn't their applications to the Central District Court be dismissed? In the meantime, he has argued that if he continues to request a warrant from the Central District Court rather than the Western District Court, there will be different results, but even that has been reversed, so it seems that President Yoon Suk Yeol's failure to attend the warrant review in various situations could put him in a disadvantageous position.

[Anchor]
As the Seoul Central District Court, which had requested an arrest suit, rejected it, there was no need to insist on the Seoul Central District Court. Is there an analysis like this?

[Jungwook Seo]
Still, I still think it's right to go to the center of Seoul, and I think there's a problem in the west. It's not the most imposing, legitimate jurisdiction, regardless of legal or illegal. Because the principle is the center. Forced to the address according to the Criminal Code. This is a trick. Because the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit has been charging the center for three years, never in the west or anywhere else. Therefore, the president does not admit it, but as I said earlier, it is a little more helpful to dismiss it by attending in person and defending it. That's why the lawyer suggested it, and I guess he made that decision.

[Anchor]
It was posted as a subtitle a while ago, but there is news that lawyer Seok Dong-hyun, who is in charge of legal advice for the president, has just arrived at the Seoul Western District Court. President Yoon posted an online letter on Facebook shortly after yesterday's claim. I released a letter from prison, but there is less than two hours left until 2 o'clock, so can I make an additional entrance?

[Kang Sungpil]
I think we can make a statement. I don't think it's good to have such frequent entrance questions. Because basically, there are many cases where contradictions are filled with a lot of things you've said. In that sense, if you say this now and then say something else later, it doesn't seem so good because there is a logical contradiction and it can be disadvantageous in your trial process. If I explain it in that sense, for example, I went to the Constitutional Court and asked President Yoon Suk Yeol's lawyers why they were so serious, and they said it was to inform the opposition party of its tyranny. So, what does the Constitutional Judge have to do with informing the people of the opposition's tyranny and putting military troops into the National Assembly? I can't answer when I ask. So I said, "I'll replace it with a reply later." So, the messages that have been made by President Yoon Suk Yeol, for example lawyer Seok Dong-hyun, have virtually never worked positively for President Yoon Suk Yeol so far. That's why I have to be careful when I issue a message and look at the relationship before and after. In that respect, it doesn't seem good to send frequent messages.

[Jungwook Seo]
I think these messages were sent on the premise that I would not attend yesterday. As I attend today, I do not expect any additional messages today because I do not think such a political message is helpful in examining the validity of the warrant.

[Anchor]
It's the first time in three days since he was arrested by the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit on the 15th. So I think I can say something.

[Kang Sungpil]
I could say something. As I told you, President Yoon Suk Yeol's explanations about President Yoon Suk Yeol, which were announced by the presidential secretariat and the presidential office's press office, were often not properly fact-checked, so I saw many cases that were different from the truth right away. Whenever that happens, explanations about the president and messages about the president actually make them less reliable. And I'll tell you again as the controversy continues to spread, if the court collects everything like evidence, and if it doesn't add up when you ask about it, it can come back as a boomerang to the president of Yoon Suk Yeol. However, President Yoon Suk Yeol seems to be focusing on the current public opinion battle rather than the outcome of the trial. That's why President Yoon Suk Yeol may be trying to rally public opinion by appealing to his supporters that all these judicial procedures and the subject of the arrest warrant are wrong.

[Jungwook Seo]
But in my opinion, the guard probably follows the same and the convoy has a front and rear guard. However, if you say a word or a photo line, it can be difficult to guard, so there is a separate door for judges to enter. I think it's going to be closed to the public. When conducting a court review, we rarely stand in the photo line and talk about it.

[Anchor]
I'm also curious about the security, didn't the president use security vehicles when he moved from his residence to the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit on the 15th and when he moved from the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit to the Seoul Detention Center? By the way, are we going to use a convoy without using a security vehicle today?

[Kang Sungpil]
Isn't it the first time a sitting president has been arrested? And since the current president attended the actual examination of the arrest warrant for the first time, the Ministry of Justice, investigative agencies, and correctional headquarters would have held their own meetings. As I've heard in the past, after the arrest warrant is issued after the emergency martial law, if the current president is arrested, what should we do with the security of this? In the case of former presidents in the past, bodyguards could not enter the correctional facility headquarters. However, there was a saying that although they were considered in various facilities such as emptying one floor to honor the president in their own way, they should come in from the security office and provide close security because they are the incumbent president. Also, when you are in an arrest situation, you have to exercise for 1 hour or 30 minutes a day. Then, there are cases where they are exposed to the outside world, and the correction headquarters, the Ministry of Justice, and investigative agencies have discussed what to do, and today, it seems that they have agreed to use a convoy to move.

[Anchor]
We just got some breaking news. President Yoon is expected to depart from the Seoul Detention Center around 1 p.m. and will board a convoy of correctional authorities, this news came out. There is also news that a security vehicle will accompany you back and forth. I'm not sure how long it will take to leave around 1 o'clock, but anyway, the car with the president is not obstructed by the flow of traffic, right?

[Jungwook Seo]
Whether to control traffic or not, the Ministry of Justice's convoy is not supposed to do that. But there are security vehicles on the front and back, so if you control the traffic, it will come soon. But if it's not that, Seoul Detention Center is in the west, so it's quite far away. Even if it's close to the center. But after looking at it for about an hour, I wonder if traffic control will be possible. First of all, the Ministry of Justice's convoy does not have traffic control authority.

[Anchor]
It is expected to take about an hour because it has to come from Uiwang, Gyeonggi-do to Mapo, Seoul, but we will tell you when President Yoon departs as soon as he comes in. As the incumbent president attends the first interrogation of the suspect before his arrest, attention is also paid to the judge in charge of the warrant, but Cha Eun-kyung, a weekend judge, is in charge of the warrant. There's a saying that this is unusual. What is it?

[Jungwook Seo]
Normally, that's what normal cases are like. In general, the warrant officer only works on weekdays and on-call on weekends, but since he is an incumbent president, is it right for him to work on-call? Or there are senior criminal chiefs and senior judges. Wouldn't it be designated separately like a life judge? There was a prediction like this. But you were probably involved in the arrest warrant for the two people in charge of the warrant. In that respect, two people were excluded because there could be significant disputes about fairness. But there are many controversies over selecting another judge. It's also like electronic dividends. Then, in principle, the judge on duty does it to ordinary people, in urgent cases. I think that's why I decided to be a judge on duty. The problem is that the riders are similar. The two people in charge of warrants are the 28th and 29th units. Next, Cha Eun-kyung, a senior judge today, is also in the 30th class of the training center, but she is rather older. I was born in 1968. I took the test late, but I had enough experience as a judge because I was in a public company and entered the 30th training center. I also took on a lot of big cases when I was in the Central District Court. Therefore, it seems that the judgment will be fairly fair.

[Anchor]
Isn't it the first time that a judge has taken charge of this as an arrest warrant has been requested for an unprecedented current president? I think it will be very burdensome. Isn't there a situation where the death threat continues against the judge who rejected the arrest suit?

[Kang Sungpil]
I think the more difficult and large cases like this, the more we can make a judgment according to the law and principles. Our lawyer Seo Jung-wook explained Judge Cha Eun-kyung well this time, and if you listen to his reputation, he is well-known as a judge who works silently and solidly. And he was in charge of the actual examination of the arrest warrant related to Director Jeong Jin-sang, who is said to be a close aide to CEO Lee Jae-myung so that he can be free from disputes over fairness. But I rejected it then. That's why the ruling party or the opposition party won't be caught up in a dispute over fairness. Then the President of Yoon Suk Yeol continued to challenge the fairness of the Western District Court. Because political constitutional judges and judges such as Ma Eun-hyuk may suspect that something is not fair because they are from the Western District Court, I think it is appropriate for the public to make a ruling within a given system without any changes, such as ordinary people. In any case, I hope there will be no more controversy over court shopping because the Central District Court, which was demanded by President Yoon Suk Yeol, has so far recognized the appropriateness of the investigative agency and the Western District Court.

[Anchor]
Since he is not a judge in charge of a warrant, but a judge on duty, I think it would be burdensome to take charge of the hearing of the president. Is there a possibility of consulting with other judges?

[Jungwook Seo]
No other judge will come to work today. Usually, for example, if there are four warrants in the center, they often agree among themselves, but today there is no one to review it alone and discuss it with anyone. Even if there is a burden, the more such a burden is, what are the laws and principles? What's the evidence and the facts? And as a judge, you can do it according to your professional conscience, but you don't have to leave it alone. However, I think I'll make a conclusion by myself.

[Anchor]
There is also news that an additional police squad has been deployed to the Seoul Detention Center, where President Yoon is currently in custody. An additional police task force has been put into the detention center. Substantial review will take place in a while, and everything is unprecedented in constitutional history. I think it would be good to point out the process of reviewing the warrant.

[Jungwook Seo]
Probably, about 6 to 7 prosecutors from the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit will come. Of course, there are 150 pages of arrest warrants for the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, and if you look at the evidence, it will be almost 200 to 300 pages. All the materials. But it's hard to explain with that. Usually, there's a presentation, with the screen floating. Whether it's about 30 minutes or an hour, the reason why you're requesting an arrest warrant is first charged with a crime, then you run away and destroy evidence. Usually, this is done in this order. But this time, I can't tell you whether I'm worried about running away or not. There's a story like this. So it's hard for the president to run away. Perhaps, rather than that, the reports mainly focus on stories such as the possibility of recidivism or secondary martial law. aspects of the seriousness of a crime Like this, the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit will do it first. And since there were a lot of lawyers, the lawyers would have lawyers, but the most important thing is that the president attended in person. Originally, the warrant hearing is about the defendant. Rather, prosecutors and lawyers are incidental. Usually, when we go to a warrant review, the most important procedure is for a judge to ask the defendant about 150 pages of this first. So, I don't know what to do today, but I think my prediction will proceed in a way that the prosecutor of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit will explain first and then the judge will continue to ask the president and his attorney as a supplement.

[Anchor]
Didn't the first arrest warrant review for President Yoon come out in 33 hours? How long do you expect it to take today?

[Kang Sungpil]
I think it will take about the same amount of time today. Usually, in the case of the case, whether it is in the morning or afternoon, one judge reviews the actual investigation of the arrest warrant. Then, after going through all the screening processes, the judgment is made after 5 p.m. or 6 p.m., so the results usually come out after 10 a.m., 11 a.m., usually 12 a.m., and midnight, but I think it may be delayed a little because it was a rare thing related to President Yoon Suk Yeol. However, I personally believe that President Yoon Suk Yeol's arrest warrant is very likely to be cited, and there are three requirements when we examine the substance of the arrest warrant. Usually, we look at three things: the fear of destroying evidence, the seriousness of the issue, and the fear of escape. The highest evaluation of evidence destruction is that those who deny their charges, such as President Yoon Suk Yeol, and those who plead not guilty, are very likely to destroy evidence. And the seriousness of the issue is that it is not necessary to say the most seriousness of the issue in Korea about the allegations related to the civil war that the whole people saw through the emergency martial law. Lastly, I'm worried about running away. Since he is the president of Yoon Suk Yeol, he can say where he will run away, which is true in reality, but if this is interpreted legally, President Yoon Suk Yeol has already refused to comply with the investigation by the investigative agency. And he refused to comply with the execution of the arrest warrant twice. This is the part that connects to the fear of escape. Of course, the situation may be a little different because you are the president. Therefore, President Yoon Suk Yeol is at a very disadvantage in the three requirements seen in the substantive examination of the arrest warrant. And additionally, it seems that the appropriateness of the court and objections related to the court so far can make the court highly likely to cite the arrest warrant.

[Jungwook Seo]
There is no time limit for arrest warrants and other things because they send documents to see if they are issued or not. So, it doesn't matter whether it takes two days or three days, but you have to wait for an arrest warrant because you have to have a 48-hour arrest warrant. Therefore, it can't take that long, and in my opinion, it should be released around midnight or at least 1 to 2 a.m. after the screening, so it's hard to go to the point where the date changes like 33 hours.

[Anchor]
You said that the results would come out as early as tonight or as early as tomorrow morning, but the Seoul Central District Court dismissed the arrest suit filed by President Yoon. Then, President Yoon will attend the screening at 2 o'clock today, so what is the possibility of requesting an arrest suit? If you're bound by

[Seo Jung-wook]

, it's 100% done. There is either arresting pride or arresting pride, but this is done by one person. However, the binding pride must be carried out by the three members of the collegiate division. Therefore, the authority will be different from the arresting pride. I've never been an arresting lawyer in 28 years. Even my classmates have never done this before. Why? There is no reason to request an arrest warrant or release it within 48 hours, so there is no reason to be registered. However, binding pride is quite important. And the consensus department does it. Since it must be done by three people, if I get arrested, of course, I'll be under arrest, so you can look at it like this.

[Anchor]
You said that if you are arrested, you will claim an arrest suit, but will you file a claim with the Central District Court again this time, not the Western District Court?

[Kang Sungpil]
Whether it's the Western or Central District Court, I think this will be a quote regardless of where the opposition party actually requests an arrest warrant. This is because even the binding pride should change before and after arrest. That's the most important thing. What is the change? There must be something special that has changed between the situation before the arrest and after the arrest. For example, wouldn't scammers have victims? Then you may be arrested and will not reimburse the victims of fraud. But he was arrested. So I don't want to be arrested because I'm surprised, so it's only then that I send a lawyer, give him a settlement, repay him, and reach an agreement. That's why the victim is virtually gone. When there is such a unusual change, it is a binding complaint to ask the court to release me because there is a change by reimbursing the damage. President Yoon Suk Yeol's case now remains unchanged. So, what was damaged by the president of Yoon Suk Yeol was the destruction of various constitutional orders, such as the people's mind and economic situation, but there was no restoration before and after the arrest. That's why it seems that binding pride is difficult to dismiss in my view.

[Anchor]
This is a breaking news that just came in. News has come out that investigative prosecutors from the Senior Prosecutor Cha Jung-hyun and other Senior Prosecutor of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit have arrived at the Seoul Western District Court. The reporters asked me a question, but I didn't answer it. It seems that he will put his life and death into proving the charges of rebellion. As soon as the warrant hearing is over, President Yoon is going back to the Seoul Detention Center. How long do you expect the interrogation to take?

[Jungwook Seo]
In the past, there were cases where it took 9 or 10 hours for President Park Geun Hye and Chairman Lee Jae-yong. So it's not like there's a time limit, from 2 o'clock. Perhaps how long will the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit brief? Then how long do the lawyers argue? So in the long run, it often takes up to 9 or 10 hours. I can't decide how long it will take today. Then, the arresting enemy came to the center. It's very strange, but the Seoul Detention Center has been arrested. Then, the jurisdiction of the Seoul Detention Center is the Seoul Central District Court. That's why arrest and redemption can only be done by the Central District Court. So, it occurs when the warrant is made in the west, but I think it should be done in the center, whether it is arresting or arresting. Why? The jurisdiction court is decided according to the location of the Seoul Detention Center.

[Anchor]
Let's also point out the positions of the ruling and opposition parties and the opposition parties looking at the arrest investigation. First of all, the power of the people is that the president's right to defend should be guaranteed, and the Democratic Party of Korea needs to listen to the importance of sin and non-cooperative attitude. We will also listen to your opinions on this. First, spokesman Kang Sung-pil.

[Kang Sungpil]
President Yoon Suk Yeol is exercising even the right to defend himself, which has not been guaranteed by the Constitution until now. In addition, it is causing inefficiencies such as lying down on the road through many supporters and putting in various public powers, so I think it is inappropriate, and President Yoon Suk Yeol has said that he has been a lawyer for 28 years, but he has never seen an arrest suit. Aren't you continuing to exercise your right to defend yourself by utilizing this privately cultured system? Nevertheless, I believe that the defense rights stipulated in the Constitution and the law should be fully exercised, and I think our judicial institutions should accept this as much as possible. However, just as there is no sanctuary before the law, I think the judgment should be made according to the principle. The three things I mentioned earlier, I've already told you about the risk of flight, the destruction of evidence, and the importance of the case, so I think the court will take this into account and make a proper trial, that's what I see.

[Anchor]
Attorney Seo Jeong-wook.

[Jungwook Seo]
There are two reasons for arrest. One is whether or not a criminal charge is a clarification. The important thing is the calling. Even if it's not a proof of calling, it's a stage where it's almost 80-90% proven, and it's a superior probability. It becomes a calling, and the second major issue is escape or destruction of evidence. You have to have one or the other. So if you look at it broadly, it's two. The problem is that the civil war came with abuse of authority. First of all, the abuse of authority itself is a part of the prosecution's privilege, so the investigation is not usually possible. But you came to the civil war with this. It's probably going to be a problem from here. But civil war is an important target. That's why the National Assembly also excluded the crime of rebellion in the criminal law in the impeachment motion. It's hard to prove. So, do you really have a calling for my purpose? In particular, the NEC server verification is not for me. Then, the National Assembly is not completely neutralized to the point that it completely blocks the National Assembly completely. Therefore, can this be seen as a civil war equivalent to a riot? I think that the calling itself is still insufficient. The second requirement is more certain. It is clear that there is no fear of escape, and then the destruction of evidence is already under arrest because it has been prosecuted. Therefore, by all accounts, the president is equal before the law. Therefore, I predict that the warrant will be dismissed because the general public believes that the warrant will be dismissed.

[Anchor]
You said there was no fear of destroying evidence or fleeing, but now the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit has replaced mobile phones before and after the emergency martial law and left the messenger app Telegram, explaining that there is a risk of destroying evidence and fleeing. What do you think of this part?

[Kang Sungpil]
It's very likely that the president of Yoon Suk Yeol could destroy evidence. And we believe that we have destroyed a lot of evidence so far, so we think arrest is necessary, and as our opposition party and many people think, investigative agencies are very concerned about it, so we are trying to arrest and arrest them. Let me give you an example. The emergency martial law has begun. And then it was lifted right away. Then, a martial law commander came to the National Assembly and asked when he knew. What did you say? I found out after watching TV. So who appointed you as martial law commander? I found out after watching it on TV. But within a few days, it was all revealed. I was instructed by the president to do all these things in advance, planned it, and plotted it. Things like this. And the important mission is called the person in charge. Counterintelligence, perks, what did the various military commanders say too? Aren't they saying that they didn't even know that the Special Forces Mission was going to the National Assembly in the case of the Special Forces Commander at first? However, after finding out all of those things, I received a phone call directly from the president, and the deputy director of the National Intelligence Service was instructed by the president and received a list of these things. Also, recently, it's called drone command. The Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit detected the situation that documents were concealed and deleted about whether drones were sent to North Korea in such a place. There are so many that I can't talk about it. That's why I think it's right to arrest the president of Yoon Suk Yeol because of the fear of destroying evidence.

[Anchor]
There is news that a photo line has been installed in the Seoul Western District Court. It's to prepare for the president's attendance. You can respond to the warrant review through the underground parking lot, but in this case, you think you'll just go into the review right away without any particular position, right?

[Jungwook Seo]
In the warrant review, a photo line is made and forced to stand there, I don't think this is right. Of course, the president has something to say to the people himself, proudly. I don't know if this is the case, but it doesn't make sense that I set up a photo line against the will of the president. Maybe there's a basement or a judge's aisle. I think that's also true in the case.

[Anchor]
The Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit used this expression on the request for an arrest warrant. He is a typical conviction. What kind of criminal suspect is this usually used for?

[Jungwook Seo]
Usually, I didn't think my crime was a crime and I did a legitimate act. I usually use this expression that I am a sure offender to these criminals. In the past, there are prisoners of conscience. During the pro-democracy movement, prisoners of conscience don't think they've broken the law. But is it right for the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit to use this expression to the president? The prosecutors at the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit are very experienced. Most of them are lawyers, so they have little experience in investigation. Few cases have been successful in prosecution for three years. As a result, it seems that there are a lot of very harsh and unnecessary expressions in the expression.

[Anchor]
The Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit is confident in securing recruits, saying they have prepared a warrant solidly. What do you think about that?

[Jungwook Seo]
That's their story. The Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit requested 5 warrants from the Central District Court, so all 5 were rejected. That's why we went to the west this time. I'm not sure if it'll be issued or not, but even if one is issued, I don't think the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit did a good job investigating and they wrote it solidly. Isn't the public opinion or the answer already decided? Is it issued because the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit uses their logic well and investigates well? What did the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit do? I didn't do anything for 10 hours. So it's a one-sided argument from the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit.

[Anchor]
The Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit also needs to be arrested because there is a circumstantial evidence that President Yoon tried to implement the second martial law, and if the impeachment is rejected in the future, extreme measures such as emergency martial law can be taken again. Let's say I emphasized this.

[Kang Sungpil]
That's right. So, if you look at the contents revealed by the prosecution and the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit so far, it doesn't mean that President Yoon Suk Yeol said this. Even if 150 people gather at the National Assembly to lift martial law, I can invoke martial law twice or three times, so bring it down one by four. Isn't that what you said? So, when you look at those things, of course, you don't know what President Yoon Suk Yeol will do. This should also be confirmed, but isn't it that North Korean agents or special forces have been deployed? However, whether they returned their weapons immediately after martial law was lifted. And what did the president of Yoon Suk Yeol say? It was said that a small number of troops were sent to the National Assembly to maintain order. To keep order, do you take out the baseball bat, take out the axe, and take out the half-moon circular cutter? Isn't that from the barbaric times? And it's called a minority force to maintain order, but as I said, isn't it that we've put in 4949 North Korean operatives, special forces, soldiers, and police, or almost 5,000 people? That's why when you look at these things, our people are anxious if President Yoon Suk Yeol continues to be president. I don't know what I'm going to do. What are you talking about now? He said he did martial law because he didn't have the right to dissolve the National Assembly. What right to dissolve the National Assembly in a presidential country? So I'll tell you that it's a worrisome situation in many ways.

[Jungwook Seo]
But this is a ridiculous claim, just think about it. At that time, the National Assembly requested the lifting of martial law in two hours after deliberation by the State Council. Then, if you think you're going to do the 2nd and 3rd martial law, you don't lift it then, but keep doing martial law. Why do you lift it? Second, if martial law is declared now, who will be the Prime Minister or ministers of the State Council there? Everyone's against it. Then, third, there is no defense minister, and all the commanders are in line, so if the president declares martial law now, who will follow it? It's a ridiculous claim about the risk of recidivism or absurdity, but how to do martial law again now is a claim that goes against the ridiculous common sense.

[Kang Sungpil]
I'm sorry, but our Democratic Party has raised such concerns in the National Assembly since August last year. So what did former Defense Minister Kim Yong-hyun say at the National Assembly in front of lawmakers and the whole nation? He laughed at me like a professional actor. At that time, I also laughed at the power of the people. How can this happen? Don't go out if soldiers call your mom's emergency martial law, saying they'll oppose the country first. How much did you laugh at this? But what happened to that? You woke up in reality. That's why I'll say this is a worrisome situation.

[Anchor]
Yoon Gap-geun, a lawyer for President Yoon, refuted that. It doesn't make sense to do an emergency martial law without being sure when you're putting your job on the line. A conviction criminal means that he is not guilty. And under the conditions of the Republic of Korea, can martial law be enforced twice? And deleting Telegram is a huge amount of information or text messages, and there is something useless, so it is natural to organize it regularly. Even ordinary people do it. He said that it is a poor investigation to call a destruction of evidence. How would you like to see this part?

[Kang Sungpil]
Simply put, that's the destruction of evidence. Why do you judge whether this is evidence or not, or whether this is data necessary for investigation? If the investigative agency secures such a thing and submits it to the court, the court judges it. What's really wrong with President Yoon Suk Yeol after the emergency martial law is that when there is a conflict, conflict, or dispute, all judgments are made by the court, but the deputy head of the security service continues to interpret the law, the president's lawyer interprets the constitution, and the interpretation he made is correct, and the interpretation of others is wrong. Now, let me say that this situation, which goes beyond that and denies all the rulings of the Constitutional Court, is a serious situation that destroys the judicial order.

[Anchor]
The views of the ruling and opposition parties on the same issue are also sharply divided, but floor leader Kwon Sung-dong said something. President Yoon should apply the same standards as when he dismissed the arrest warrant for Lee Jae-myung. How can I interpret this?

[Jungwook Seo]
Representative Lee Jae-myung is being tried in court, and there are four life imprisonment sentences stipulated by the law. If the remittance to North Korea exceeds 100 million, it is a life sentence. Next, FC is also sentenced to life imprisonment for 13.3 billion won in bribes. Then, breach of trust or embezzlement can be carried out if the amount is exceeded under the Special Police Act. Then it's Daejang-dong and Baekhyun-dong. In this way, representative Lee Jae-myung's court sentence is also tried on enormous charges that can serve four life sentences, but that's not the case if the evidence is small. Lieutenant Governor Lee Hwa-young has already been convicted of the High Court and the actual final trial. However, if you look there, you will find out that you have reported it by phone several times or recognized it 17 times through electronic payment. I mean, in terms of evidence and criminal charges, CEO Lee Jae-myung is by no means small. Nevertheless, since he is the leader of the opposition party, there is no fear of running away, so the warrant was rejected. It means that it has to be applied as it is. Then, CEO Lee Jae-myung is going to have a hearing for lieutenant governor Lee Hwa-young this time and even a perjury investigation. Jeong Jin-sang also has jewelry. Then, is CEO Lee Jae-myung without detention because he has no fear of destroying evidence? That's not it. You're the leader of the opposition party and you're being held without detention because you don't have to Then I think the president is the same. And there's a lot less destruction of evidence. Because the commander of the defense, the commander of the special forces, has already stated the factory. This is what's important. Therefore, how much destruction will there be? Compared to Representative Lee Jae-myung, of course, it is true that he is not detained.

[Anchor]
If you have any objections to this, please do it.

[Kang Sungpil]
Then, when did CEO Lee Jae-myung refuse to comply with the summons? The prosecution told me to come, so I went. Of course, they exercised their right to remain silent as stipulated by the law. Then shouldn't President Yoon Suk Yeol also go if the investigative agency tells him to come? Don't you think we can go and exercise the right to remain silent? So I can't be investigated because the investigative agency and the prosecution are wrong with CEO Lee Jae-myung. Did you say that? I've never done that before. But isn't President Yoon Suk Yeol saying, "This is why the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit is not allowed, the prosecution is not allowed, and the police are not allowed because of this, and they continue to say, "No, no, no, no?" There's a big difference. The illegal emergency martial law committed by President Yoon Suk Yeol was viewed by the whole nation in real time. I saw a soldier with a gun breaking a window and entering the National Assembly headquarters, and the speaker of the National Assembly, who was nearly seventy years old, couldn't enter the National Assembly door and crossed the wall. Is this person okay with nothing to do? It's because you don't want me to go in. And I don't say that accomplices related to CEO Lee Jae-myung ordered by CEO Lee Jae-myung. He hasn't even told me that he reported it to CEO Lee Jae-myung. However, the president is saying that important missions related to the president of Yoon Suk Yeol, the commander of the Special Forces, the commander of the counterintelligence, the commander of the water command, and the chief of the National Police Agency were all ordered by the president. That is the big difference between representative Lee Jae-myung and president of Yoon Suk Yeol. And secondly, CEO Lee Jae-myung cooperated with all procedures of the law enforcement investigation agency. But President Yoon Suk Yeol denies all of this and denies it, let me say this is a big difference.

[Jungwook Seo]
But this needs to be corrected, among the allegations of representative Lee Jae-myung, there are more than 100 million embezzlement and breach of trust with Gyeonggi-do's corporate card. Last year, I notified him to come in July, but he refused to comply until the end, and then the written investigation refused to comply with this. It is true that even if the prosecution kept asking me to come, I didn't go and CEO Lee Jae-myung didn't go. It's a matter of fact. That's why they were indicted without detention. There's this one. Then, did an accomplice confess one or two of the representative Lee Jae-myung's cases? If you review the contents, Kim Jin-sung of the perjury teacher confesses that I perjured myself because CEO Lee Jae-myung asked for perjury. The perjury teacher case, too. After that, Yoo Dong-gyu and his accomplices are both confessing, and Lieutenant Governor Lee Hwa-young confessed to the prosecution three times at first. There are a lot of accomplices who acknowledged it like this.

[Kang Sungpil]
Then, assuming that you admitted it, how many useful cases of corporate cards in Korea would be. And how many cases of perjury teachers are there in Korea? However, this is the first time in 45 years that an incumbent president has done emergency illegal martial law, and is this the object of comparison? I think the people will judge.

[Anchor]
If an arrest warrant is issued, wouldn't President Yoon be held in Seoul Detention Center for up to 20 days, including the arrest period? The arrest was made on the 15th, so would the 20th, including that day, be until February 3rd?

[Jungwook Seo]
It's unclear if the law is done too quickly by the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit. What I mean is that the police only have 10 days, the longest. Then, the prosecution should have 10 days in principle. Then, if the court absolutely needs it, it can be extended for 10 days, because this is the law. However, as far as I know, there is no clear 10th or 20th in the Corruption Investigations Unit Act. Then, depending on whether the law is regarded as a police officer or a prosecutor. So they saw it as a prosecutor, so this is the 20th. So, we have to investigate for about 10 days and then the prosecution has to hand it over to the Central District Prosecutors' Office. This is also a comedy. It says to hand it over to the prosecutor at the Central District Prosecutors' Office. So I think it's funny to do a warrant in the west. The jurisdiction corresponds to the Central District Court. So I don't know what the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit will do for the 10th, but it's refusing to make a statement. I'm not getting any statements. Then why do you have to hold it for 10 days? I believe that whatever the conclusion is, it should be handed over to the prosecutor of the Central District Prosecutors' Office.

[Anchor]
It is known that the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit and the prosecution will be investigating for 10 days, so if President Yoon is not responding to the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit's investigation, do you think he will respond to the investigation during the prosecution's investigation?

[Kang Sungpil]
I wonder if President Yoon Suk Yeol will respond to the prosecution's investigation. I'm skeptical. Because President Yoon Suk Yeol says that's not the case, but I think for President Yoon Suk Yeol, the criminal trial related to the criminal prosecution called impeachment is being conducted on a two-track basis at the Constitutional Court. In my personal opinion, President Yoon Suk Yeol has put his life and death on the impeachment inquiry. Because, the impeachment examination determines the illegality, in other words, whether this is a crime big enough to dismiss the president even if he committed a crime. So even if you have committed a crime, there is a possibility that the impeachment will be dismissed again and you can return to work. If that happens, the situation of all this is reversed. However, in the case of criminal prosecution, both big and small crimes are dealt with, and the appropriate sentencing is selected and punished. That's why President Yoon Suk Yeol is trying to delay anything related to this criminal prosecution as much as possible, so any logic. So, I went to the Central District Court and the Central District Court said that it should be done in the Central District Court, and I had the authority of an investigative agency. Even if it is judged that this warrant is legal, you are making excuses for another reason. Since the same judges are talking about things like that, it is difficult to overturn the ruling, we will continue to find fault in the proceedings related to criminal prosecution no matter what the circumstances arise.

[Jungwook Seo]
As far as I know, the Central Prosecutor's Office will respond. The President firmly defends the rule of law. So even if you don't respond when this is illegal, all legal investigations or trials are confident, this is firm. But the prosecutor of the Central District Prosecutors' Office can investigate. Whether it's the police or the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit. Because the prosecution has the final right to prosecute anyway. I'm confident in the prosecution's investigation. You've also been the head of the Central District Prosecutors' Office and the president. You can't deny that. I'm going to respond and see you.

[Anchor]
The Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit agreed to spend 10 days, and the prosecution originally agreed to spend 10 days, but since it includes the arrest period, the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit has already spent four days, right? If this is the case, do you think President Yoon will be handed over to the prosecution right away even if he investigates for another day?

[Jungwook Seo]
That's what you have to say. Now, we don't respond to any cooperation investigations, but there's no reason to hold it. Originally, the most desirable thing is to hand over the arrest to the prosecution. The Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit has to transfer the case from the beginning, but if they get a warrant from the west and go back to the center without doing any investigation, the prosecution has to prosecute it to the Central District Court. Therefore, there is a lot of procedural confusion, but I don't think there is any reason to continue to drag on if we pass it quickly even now.

[Anchor]
This is news that just came in. It is said that President Yoon will leave the Seoul Detention Center soon. I'm showing you a panoramic view of the Seoul Detention Center on the screen. There is news that President Yoon will leave the Seoul Detention Center soon. From the Constitutional Court's consideration of the impeachment trial documents as service to the recent rejection of an arrest suit. President Yoon raised the case 9 times and lost all 9 times, so why do you think the case is so objectionable?

[Jungwook Seo]
I think the rule of law is shaking. It's a pity that the rule of law in Korea is collapsing like this. Because it's a huge thing to arrest a sitting president. Then you have to follow a perfectly fair legal process that no one can object to. to the point where no one can challenge it We need to designate this as a grand project, be extremely fair and very correct. Then what should I do? It's just the police investigating the rebellion. If the president doesn't come, there's no problem if you just get an arrest warrant with the Seoul Central District Court and execute it like this. The police did the arrest warrant anyway. The Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit doesn't have personnel. Then why did you take out the prosecution? The prosecution and the police are investigating each other. The prosecution has raided several mobile phones from Woo Jong-soo, the head of the prosecution, saying that he participated in the illegal civil war. After that, the police went to the prosecution again when they entered the election committee. As a result, expediency accumulated. That's why they growl with the prosecution and investigate each other. Then the police do not have the right to claim a warrant, so it is a collaborative copy to eat one side with the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, but there is no basis for the law. There is no basis for the law that an assistance copy can do it. This is where all the controversy comes from. So, I'm going to take every step of the way, and no one can argue. In particular, there is a way that even legal professionals like me can never object, but controversy continues as they go by circumvention and expediency.

[Kang Sungpil]
However, before the warrant was issued by the court, the argument made by lawyer Seo Jeong-wook could be reasonable, and he could make that argument as much as he wants. But the court ruled that it wasn't. That's what the Western District Court said. However, the Western District Court's judgment was also wrong, so the president of Yoon Suk Yeol put it back in the Central District Court. But from there, the Western District Court has ruled that the warrant, the claim, and the investigative agency has authority. But if you keep complaining, who decides when there's a conflict in Korea? I think the value of conservatism is the rule of law. And the contradiction is that President Yoon Suk Yeol recently filed a complaint against Woo Jong-soo, head of the National Investigation Division, and then filed a complaint against Oh Dong-woon, head of the Airborne Division. I think this is really sophistry. Why? Both of them were appointed by the president of Yoon Suk Yeol. However, the main culprit accused Woo Jong-soo, the head of the National Investigation Headquarters, of rebellion. And the thing that accused the head of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit is that the thief accuses the police. I have to persuade President Yoon Suk Yeol to stop the disruption of this ridiculous judicial order from President Yoon Suk Yeol's lawyers, but I'm sorry that I can't give proper legal advice to President Yoon Suk Yeol.

[Anchor]
In addition to the investigation of investigative agencies, isn't the impeachment trial underway at the Constitutional Court? President Yoon's side has said that the Constitutional Court's judgment comes first, but even if he is arrested, he can attend the Constitutional Court hearing, right?

[Jungwook Seo]
That's right. At that time, 48 hours of arrest was urgent, so I couldn't go because I didn't get permission, but those who were arrested can of course attend if they have another trial, whether it's a civil trial. The Constitutional Court also has fairness. This is a big problem in the legal profession these days, and there is an investigation record, so when you ask the Constitutional Court to send documents, you can ask the state agency to send them. However, documents that are under trial, prosecution, or investigation are not allowed. It's in the law like this. But the Constitutional Court can't do the original, and I can copy it and copy it. Then, if you don't do the original and take revenge, why do you need to have such a condolence? This was pointed out a lot during the Park Geun Hye presidency, but we really need to correct it. And it's a law, Article 32 of the Constitutional Court Act. But it must be an enforcement rule, but when I looked it up, the rule can't be superior to the law, but the rule doesn't say that either. In the future, no matter who wants to send the investigative agency or the documents in trial, confidential information will be leaked, personal information, and various professional evidence, so the system should not do this in the future unless the Constitutional Court changes the law. I get all the investigation documents and write evidence with them. It's a ridiculous story.

[Anchor]
Starting from the 14th, the pleading day is being held on Tuesday and Thursday, and if that happens, the pleading day will be held on Tuesday the 21st, what do you think will come and go then?

[Kang Sungpil]
At the Constitutional Court? First of all, the Constitutional Court has demanded some things from President Yoon Suk Yeol, but President Yoon Suk Yeol is not responding. For example, if you ask the lawyer whether there was a Cabinet meeting through a fact-finding application with the Ministry of Public Administration and Security and why they are not doing this now, they only say they will. So it's very important whether there were minutes of the Cabinet meeting. Because one of the requirements for invoking emergency martial law is to be deliberated by the State Council. After the deliberation, the relevant ministers are supposed to attach these things, what did the members of the State Council say in this process? However, I heard that the president must gather the members of the State Council and do this for five minutes. If I don't do this, it's all on. I'm going to go. That's what I said, right? So, we need to support these testimonies with objective data. To claim that the emergency martial law was justified, President Yoon Suk Yeol should show the minutes of the State Council and say that it is justified because I did it in due process, but the Constitutional Court tells me to submit it, but I don't. Then, suddenly, President Yoon Suk Yeol's lawyer told him to sit down because the Russian-Ukrainian war has been at odds with the nation since 2014. And since evidence could not be obtained at peace through emergency martial law, we tried to secure evidence of allegations of fraudulent elections through emergency martial law. So if you ask a question about this, you can't answer it properly, so I'm saying I'll replace it with an answer sheet. So these things will continue to be boring in the Constitutional Court, it seems like this.

[Anchor]
President Yoon Suk Yeol is expected to leave the Seoul Detention Center soon to attend the warrant hearing at 2 p.m. That's why it's that kind of dimension. Should the investigative agency close its eyes if a crime is found? It's not. And as you said earlier, prosecutor Yoon Suk Yeol did this properly during former President Park Geun Hye's manipulation of state affairs. That's why the truth of the state affairs manipulation was revealed. But I was right then, but I shouldn't do it now. I think this is an excuse that criminals are afraid of further revealing their crimes.

[Anchor]
In fact, some analysts say that the ruling and opposition parties built their own justifications while negotiating, which had no possibility of agreement from the beginning.

[Jungwook Seo]
The most absurd thing for me right now is the investigation of the special prosecutor. You can investigate. In our country, there is a thing called double jeopardy. Once charged and tried, they are not punished twice. But even the president is going to be prosecuted for civil war within 20 days. But if you pass the special prosecutor's office now, you'll cross it for a month. Then all the buses have left, but there's nothing for the special prosecutor to investigate. It's not like we're going to investigate the abuse of some crumbs. I am therefore already late in time. I'm looking at it like this.

[Anchor]
On the Democratic Party's side, the foreign exchange charges, the size of the special prosecution law, and the investigation period have all been erased. That's why the amendment passed the plenary session, and as I said just a moment ago, attention is paid to acting Choi Sang-mok. Will Acting Supermarket veto it?

[Kang Sungpil]
I think Acting Chief Minister Choi Sang-mok will veto it. That's what he's done so far. That's why I think so. We, the Democratic Party of Korea, made concessions to what it usually said was a toxic clause in the power of the people, not within the Democratic Party, but within the power of the people. What's the biggest one? It's a foreign exchange crime. In fact, the reason why the Democratic Party of Korea said that we should deal with foreign exchange is because the civil war related to the emergency martial law is a domestic political situation that has occurred in Korea anyway, because it is a corruption situation. But it's something that could lead to a war with North Korea. That's why, when a drone penetrates North Korea or raises tensions at the Northern Limit Line, and then a filth balloon flies, the intention was to induce local warfare between North Korea and legally enforce emergency martial law by meeting the requirements of emergency martial law. If this was the case, we might have had a situation like Ukraine where we had to go to war for three years. Nevertheless, the truth will be revealed someday anyway, so shouldn't we make concessions because we shouldn't do foreign exchange crimes in the power of the people? And the duration of the investigation is the same. In fact, the first investigation period the Democratic Party said was 150 days, but if you look at this, the first 20 days is the preparation period. And the investigation period is 70 days. Simply put, it's 90 days. But you can extend it once here. through a parliamentary report Then it's 120 days. Then, there is only a 10-day difference from the 110 days claimed by the power of the people. In order to extend it one more time, the acting president needs to give permission, so will you allow it? So, in the end, the people's power was not willing to propose a special prosecution law in the first place, seeing that everything is now not possible, and that is not possible, and that is not possible at the end of the day. But now, if we don't even propose the independent counsel law on our own, we will be criticized by the public and vote for departure, so we decided to force it out, but it seems like that.

[Anchor]
However, in the case of the investigation, the number of items was reduced from 11 to 6, reflecting the position of the people's power, but the scope of the investigation was left to be expanded by including related recognition cases in the last item.

[Kang Sungpil]
So that's what I just told you. For example, we are investigating a person named A for theft, and this person sold this person to steal it. I sold the security guard in the store, I assaulted him. So, since this is a theft case, should we only investigate this theft? Or should we investigate this from assaulting a security guard on the way in? This is a given. As I said earlier, the representative one was prosecutor Yoon Suk Yeol in the case of former President Park Geun Hye's manipulation of state affairs. That's why I revealed all this and made the current president of Yoon Suk Yeol the result of that time. But now the people's power is going to stop it, so let's not reveal the truth. And I also excluded this because I wanted to exclude the charge of propaganda of civil war that I've been saying all along. You mentioned foreign exchange crimes, North Korea, and military secrets, so you took everything out. Then why didn't you tell me this then? Therefore, I think that there is a political conspiracy that is being made to neutralize the special prosecution itself in the power of the people.

[Anchor]
When the previous Insurrection Special Prosecutor Act was abolished, wasn't it discarded because only two votes were insufficient? What do you think if acting Choi Sang-mok vetoes this time and goes into a re-vote?

[Kang Sungpil]
I personally think that a re-vote will lead to a departure of more than 18 votes from the power of the people. Because the Democratic Party accepted the demands so far from the power of the people. But you reject this more? So I think about eight votes will be enough, but I think there will be people like Rep. Kim Sang-wook who has a conscience in the power of the people. When the plenary session passes, it's 150 surfaces, but this is open. That's why I think it was inevitable due to my political landscape, and I think there will be a lot of leave votes because the re-vote is anonymous.

[Anchor]
How many votes do you think you'll get?

[Jungwook Seo]
I think 198 votes came out last time. But it's going to be less than last time. Why, we proposed the party's theory this time and the consultation broke down. Therefore, I believe that there are far fewer votes to leave, and no one actually voted for it except for Representative Ahn Cheol Soo yesterday. Reps. Kim Jae-seop and Kim Yong-tae also. Then I think I got the wrong proportions. Breaking down the door while stealing is something you can do without a related incident. So, you can investigate related cases, and of course, you can break the door while investigating theft without it. Then, by analogy, you said you'd take out the foreign exchange crime. But while investigating a rebellion, what's coming out of a related case with foreign exchange North Korea? If this happens, you can do foreign exchange. Of course, propaganda can be done. What about the civil war propaganda? Why, why is the propaganda instigation missing while investigating a rebellion that blocked the National Assembly? I mean, if there's anything that's left out, you can zoom in to infinity.

[Anchor]
It was originally reported that he would leave the Seoul Detention Center around 1 o'clock, but it seems to be delayed a little. I don't know how long it will take to get there, but does it increase the likelihood of going straight in without being in the photo line at the site?

[Jungwook Seo]
The photo line doesn't take long, but I think traffic will be controlled. I've said this many times, but traffic control is at 2 o'clock. It's the weekend right now. It's an impossible time, but if you run without a signal because of traffic control, you'll get a prediction time. These days, you get Kakao Talk messages when you take a taxi. Then if it's 32 minutes, I think we'll go on time.

[Anchor]
We showed you the situation of the Seoul Detention Center and the Seoul District Court at this time. There seems to be a lot of supporters at the Seoul District Court a while ago. I can also see supporters waving Korean flags at the detention center. How can I ensure my safety?

[Kang Sungpil]
As lawyer Seo Jeong-wook said, I personally think the president should control traffic in the process of going to the Western District Court. Anyway, you're the incumbent president of the Republic of Korea. However, if there is no traffic control, there are cases where it stops in the middle. Then you don't know what will happen in the process of stopping. Also, the president is not in a bulletproof vehicle, but is in a convoy of the Ministry of Justice anyway, and if you look inside this convoy, there are bars and it is safe, but it will not be bulletproof glass anyway. That's why I think it's right for the president to move in the process of close-up protection of the president's bulletproof vehicles while controlling traffic. In any case, in the process of the president's convoy, there are various rallies, such as for or against, because the criminal mobilization team was dispatched, I think they will control it properly on their own.

[Anchor]
Since it has been reported that the police have started traffic control near the Seoul Detention Center, it seems that it will come out as soon as it is controlled, right?

[Jungwook Seo]
If I tell you about the people who participated in the rally, the Seoul Detention Center won't be that many. Pastor Jeon Kwang-hoon is the one who is currently rallying in the west. The people who lead here are going to Gwanghwamun. They're in West Detention Center. Then there's another big one. I think this side is stronger. You have to stop it even if you just lie down. Like this. This was a lot in the Western District Court. Therefore, a lot of police are operating to disperse in the Western District Court. If you look at it broadly, the Taegeukgi rally and all the people in the detention center are in Gwanghwamun right now. Therefore, the West will be more than the detention center.

[Anchor]
The front of the Western District Court is very confusing, and the police took one by one and forced them to disband, but they said they would control it all weekend.

[Jungwook Seo]
There are hard-liners over there, in a way. Even if you lie down on the street in Hannam-dong, you have to protect the president somehow, these young people in their 20s and 30s or their forces. That's a bit different in personality. Pastor Jeon Kwang-hoon's side. So probably Pastor Jeon Kwang-hoon should do it as peacefully as possible, so I went to Gwanghwamun and there are quite a lot of hard-liners in the west, so I wonder what will happen. They're all lying in front of the court. Since everyone is lying down, this is also a big concern about how to move to a group of four.

[Kang Sungpil]
I am very concerned about those who attend the rally related to Pastor Jeon Kwang-hoon. I saw a media report today. That's from the title of this report. Jeon Kwang-hoon, a pastor, will pay 50,000 won for each person who will come to the anti-impeachment rally. This is a matter of considerable concern. Therefore, because of this suspicion, Pastor Jeon Kwang-hoon should not do anything that will be misunderstood by the people in the process of the assembly. And I think that if the investigative agency shows circumstances in which such suspicions are objectively proved, I should enter the investigation.

[Anchor]
Didn't Kim Sung-hoon, the deputy head of the presidential security department who is suspected of leading the arrest of President Yoon, get arrested yesterday? And today, Lee Kwang-woo, the head of the security headquarters, attended the police and was arrested. As a result, both hard-liners of the Presidential Security Service were arrested by the police. There was also a controversy as Deputy Director Kim Sung-hoon is known to have led a praise song made to celebrate President Yoon's birthday. Let's listen to it right away when the recording is ready. Or when we're ready, we'll ask you now. How did you see two hard-liners arrested by police
?

[Jungwook Seo]
I don't know why it's necessary to get arrested. Director of Security Park Jong-joon did not arrest him. But this time, the deputy manager voluntarily attended on his own. After all, the bodyguard is doing the job of the bodyguard. Isn't the absolute value of the security service protecting the president to the end? Isn't it too harsh a measure to arrest him even though he did not have to worry about running away? You can investigate and prosecute without detention as much as you want. I think it is an excessive measure to do this as if you are arresting a red-handed criminal.

[Anchor]
Isn't Kim Sung-hoon able to have a friend's birthday party related to the president's birthday party? He said that. But can it lead to abuse of authority or coercion?

[Jungwook Seo]
It's just that this kind of thing has nothing to do with abuse of authority. The head of the security department has his own authority to abuse his authority, and he exercised his authority within that authority, but it was a little abused. It's a private matter, so I don't know if it's a little bit critical or not, but it's irrelevant to the security service's original mission. Therefore, it is not a criminal matter of abuse of authority or criminality.