Kwon Young-se, present for 'Conservative YouTuber'? "For getting blood on your hands?"

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[News FM Lee Ik-seon Choi Soo-young Issue & People]

□ Broadcast date and time: January 21, 2025 (Tue)
□ Host: Lee Ik-seon, Choi Soo-young
□ Performers: Former lawmaker Jeong Ok-im and former lawmaker Shin Kyung-min

<Former lawmaker Jeong Ok-im>
- Kwon Young-se, right-wing YouTuber New Year's gift? For doing it instead of getting blood on your hands? Presidential election victory should be won only when the middle class shows painful reforms
- U.S. Rep. Young Kim may have made a misjudgment

<Former lawmaker Shin Kyung-min>
- 'theory of rigged elections' is absurd, but where votes are cast in Taiwanese style
- Congressman's visit to the U.S.? Not diplomacy, but self-politics.Inauguration Day Diplomatic Skepticism
- U.S. Rep. Young Kim's remarks, rash and hasty...Facts are also wrong
- Loudspeaker on North Korea's impeachment bill by 尹 Korea? a frantic decision written by the ignorant
* The text below may differ from the actual broadcast content, so please check the broadcast for more accurate information.




◆ Choi Soo-young: The impact of the violent intrusion of the Western District Court on the 19th, when President Yoon's arrest warrant was issued, continues. In particular, there are many criticisms that politicians have encouraged such violence, especially those who criticize lawmaker Yoon Sang-hyun, the power of the people. Rep. Yoon Sang-hyun said about this, "I encouraged you to attack the Western District Court? The Democratic Party of Korea is very shameless." However, the Democratic Party of Korea is planning to submit a proposal to expel Yoon Sang-hyun today, Rep. Shin, please point this out.

☆ Shin Kyung-min: Rep. Yoon Sang-hyun is trying to take his foot out, but there must be something left that he said this. I think you're going around on YouTube or the Internet, but I don't think you can leave out even if you take your foot out like this. Isn't the attack on the Western District actually unprecedented? A lot of things happened after 45 years.I don't remember much about Ma's court raid.

◆ Choi Soo-young: There was terrorism by individual judges.

☆ Nervous: That's right. There was something like threatening to kill an individual judge, but I went to the judge's office and it was on the 7th floor. The outside doesn't know if it's on the 7th floor. Who knows if he's there? Lawyers are reluctant to enter the judge's office because they can't enter it. And depending on the judge, there are some people who have a policy in their room saying that lawyers are not allowed to enter, and when they go to a certain judge's office, they write a ban on it. There are cases where they write, "No lawyers allowed," and they tend not to go to the judge's office, but how they knew that they just went up to the seventh floor and smashed the judge's office. From this point of view, there are very complicated stories about whether it is difficult to say that the forces behind it do not exist. There are traces of political circles buying something, and I don't think it's done with the power of YouTubers alone. From that point of view, Rep. Yoon is trying to get out of the way.I don't think it's going to be easy to take my foot out. If this is the first issue and it's too serious, and attacking the court becomes commonplace, it's a shame to say that Korea is a rule of law, so I'm not sure if the political circle is Yoon Sang-hyun's long.If there is a political community involved, this political community should also be punished and dealt with justice.

◇ Lee Ik-seon: But as a result, it's a burden on the president and it's a burden on the ruling party, so would he have ordered this burden? In your passport?

★ Jeongokim: There are some parts where YouTube vividly conveys the scene these days, but it shows the very congestion effect in this kind of thing. It's "Peekaboo" because it's all filmed and appears. But in the case of lawmaker Yoon Sang-hyun, was it yesterday's administrative and security committee? The police chief in Gangnam answered the phone and said he would ask me to take a good look at it, but he said he would do it in accordance with the rules and laws. He didn't use the word "hunbang." We're already talking about that. And what's conservatism? The value of conservatism is the rule of law. In the past, when leftists used such violence, we criticized that such people should not be entrusted with power, and how irrational and ignoring the rule of law is, but now this is almost like a mob. On the contrary, the conservative party should not only draw a clear line on this and make it clear that it should not be done, but it is rather embarrassing that the emergency committee chairman sends gifts to right-wing YouTubers who have strong voices. To be honest.

◆ Choi Soo-young: Former lawmaker Kim Min recently drew attention for saying, "Yoon Suk Yeol is a fool" and "I tried to break the rigged election cartel." However, not only lawmaker Kim but also the conspiracy theory of fraudulent election that has been publicly mentioned since President Yoon's declaration of emergency martial law. In other words, there are rumors in the political circle that there was a fraudulent election, and there is a prediction that the president will probably explain this in the Constitutional Court. Conspiracy theorists said 99 Chinese people were arrested at the NEC training center and the U.S. Forces Korea sent them to Okinawa, Japan. The U.S. Forces Korea officially stated yesterday that they believe such fake news is real. Rep. Shin, do you think this is the part that President Yoon will most actively explain in the Constitutional Court?

☆ Shin Kyung-min: I've seen the Sky Daily article. It's really absurd. Some say that if President Trump of the United States takes office, he will have no choice but to come to help, and some Chinese are imprisoned at the Okinawa base, but it is also wrapped up nicely. I suspect that President Yoon was misled by this kind of article after hearing this. Perhaps President Yoon should explain whether it is an impeachment process or a trial process. Of course, I will tell you before that during the investigation process, but then we have to start with how much President Yoon believed in this and did this on December 3rd. However, I have pointed out that there are problems with the election system and the voting system several times, and what they are pointing out now is not very worth listening to, but I would like to check the election system and the voting system. Especially in the case of the voting system, we are too digitized. However, there are people who explain that it is because advanced countries are behind us in Internetization.Ma is stubbornly analog. Let's finish with the check. And if you look at the early voting, it is a list of voters nationwide, so in the case of early voting, you can do it anytime, anywhere during that period. I think it's better to check this once so that there are no more doubts. Among the introductions, Taiwan's voting system is impressive. You start counting the votes right where you voted. And I do it all with my hands. Of course, we get a lot of help from machines. So, it is necessary to get as little help from the machine as possible, and we need to seriously think about how we can check everything with human hands. I suggest going back to analog.

◇ Lee Ik-seon: But it's been argued that the president has been in this conspiracy theory of election fraud since he was the prosecutor general. Kwon Young-chul, a CBS waitress, has been interested in the conspiracy theory of fraudulent elections since he was the prosecutor general. Former lawmaker Yoo Kyung-joon said something similar. That's why I came to do this because I had that idea for a long time.

★ Jeong Ok-im: Rep. Lee Joon-seok also said that when he met with former Prosecutor General Yoon Suk Yeol when he was the representative, it comes out like this. It's not so favorable to President Yoon Suk Yeol to talk about this. Because I wasn't sure who was reporting on the rigged election and checking it out. That's what it's about. For that reason, it is true that I have been conscious of the problem for a long time, but it seems to be true that there was no clear evidence. So, as soon as martial law was declared, the military was sent to the Central Election Commission to take pictures of the server, and it was a very superficial gesture, wasn't it? In my opinion, if we don't shake this off this time, the losing side of the election will continue to talk about fraudulent elections. In the first place, wasn't Origin Kim Eo-jun 2012 for the rigged election? But when we had our general election in 2020 and the U.S. presidential election, we filed a fraudulent election, as if it was exported to the U.S. again. So Trump also called it a "Stop the Steal" election, so I don't know if you remember that, but in the case of Trump, several states in the United States tried and reviewed it, and completely cleared it. That's why, for example, we need to do a few random elections to see if it's a fraudulent election or, as Representative Shin Kyung-min suggested, since the issue has been raised this time, we need to open it up.

◇ Lee Ik-seon: No, then the NEC should have responded to the investigation and made it clear.

★ Jung Ok-im: Since the chairman of the election watchdog is in a position to disclose the server as well, why don't we do that? Wasn't this the root cause of the conflict between those who believe in rigged elections and those who don't?

◆ Choi Soo-young: Rep. Kim Eo-jun mentioned earlier, and it is a favorite item of YouTubers, whether left or right. Kwon Young-se, chairman of the People's Power Emergency Committee, sent Lunar New Year gifts to 10 far-right YouTubers accused of propaganda of rebellion. Of course, the Democratic Party of Korea is also arguing over the election law. Chairman Kwon says it was simply intended to encourage him, but how do you see this?

★ Jeongokim: I told you earlier. Whether the power of the people is oversampling or whatever, doesn't the approval rating go up differently from the impeachment of President Park Geun Hye in the past? That would be very encouraging for the people's power. But think about it. Isn't there a reality waiting for the Constitutional Court to go to the presidential election after the judgment is over? Then, at least in the power of the people, we need to show the middle class a painful reform that has appeal power, centered on the emergency committee chairman. But I think conservative YouTubers are doing what they don't because they're afraid of getting blood on their hands. That's why this behavior comes out, and the presidential election has to exceed 50%. If the candidates are divided into two parties. Then there should be such a strategy, but this is something I don't understand even when I look at it.

◇ Profit line: Okay. People's Power lawmakers who visited the U.S. to attend the inauguration of U.S. President Trump early this morning said they would actively inform the U.S. of the domestic political situation, but did it go as intended?

☆ Nervous: I don't know. If you look at the schedule, there are schedules that meet with members of the House and Senate, especially the Foreign Relations Committee. Diplomacy is in its own way. But if you look at the inauguration, it's actually a little hectic. Because it's the time when American politics is changing, no one is sitting down yet. In particular, if the administration has to go through a hearing and there is no problem with the hearing, especially the secretary of state would have been confirmed 99-0 right away and taken office, but the rest of the ministers are not yet at all. Also, assistant and secretaries all have to hold hearings, so you have to do everything underneath. You have to do assistant. Then it'll still take a lot of time for the U.S. administration to settle down. In the end, I'm meeting a few members of the House and Senate. I think the lawmakers will just talk about them and come back depending on the position of the ruling opposition party. After saying too biased things to the lawmakers, I think the lawmakers will only increase their confirmation bias in the end. It's not diplomacy, but in the end, I think they'll just go and build the domestic political foundation of the Korean lawmakers. In fact, it was like that before. In the past, when the administration changed, it was done like this. I'm a little skeptical about this inauguration diplomacy. There is a limit to what you can do when you go to the inauguration diplomacy, and that's what it is. I think it would be rather helpful for diplomacy to refrain from each other and not speak too strongly here.

◆ Choi Soo-young: But wouldn't it have the effect of supplementing Lee's acting politics a little if we explain the domestic political situation to major U.S. politicians?

★ Jeongokim: We are in that situation, but rather, liberal democracy is firmly protected and everything will be done according to the law. There's a comment from the U.S. State Department. But is it that kind of tone? I don't think so. The Democratic Party will make claims to the American lawmakers that the people's power is as strong as the people's power. However, the U.S. lawmakers may be good at their own country's politics, but they are not that interested in other people's country's politics and do not know it very well. And it's not the U.S. that has a big impact on foreign policy just because lawmakers have input their thoughts. That's the situation.

◇ Lee Ik-seon: Representative Young Kim of the House of Representatives, who is scheduled to meet with domestic politicians. This is the chairman of the East Asia-Pacific subcommittee and a three-term Korean-American lawmaker, but what was the comment of Representative Young Kim of the House of Representatives? Impeachment forces are conciliatory to North Korea and conform to China. Such a perception will cause a great disaster on the Korean Peninsula. ’ I mentioned it like this. What do you think of Young Kim's perception?

☆ Shin Kyung-min: Representative Young Kim won't know the situation in Korea that well. Congressman Young Kim is a successful person who immigrated to the United States, but as a person who immigrated to the United States, it would have been very difficult to care about Korea until this successful. You must have gone through a lot of trouble from American domestic politics to being a member of the House of Representatives. And he must have been helped by someone. But there must have been someone's input when talking about Korean politics with such confidence. I personally don't know much about talking about domestic politics and foreign policy according to that input, but I think this person is a rash person. If you want to talk about this definitively, check twice or three times, and if you want to talk about this much, the U.S. State Department or the U.S. Department of Defense and the White House will be empty. Let's check it out and talk about it. Usually in the case of other MPs. That's right, but he's a very important person to us because he's currently the chairman of the so-called committee without going through such a process. But in a hasty conclusion, one side's story... Moreover, this isn't even true. To say this, I think this person has little experience in diplomacy. Since he is a person who has no choice but to do important things in the future, especially in the policy of the Korean Peninsula, it seems important for our government to manage him well so that his orientation does not go wrong.

◆ Choi Soo-young: But the remark of Representative Chung and Representative Young Kim is noteworthy because the Democratic Party of Korea also included so-called Yoon Suk Yeol vote diplomacy as a reason for impeachment in the first impeachment motion. Then, since it became controversial, it was removed from the second prosecution, and the result is a little similar to this. I think I'm getting attention.

★ Jeong Ok-im: So the Democratic Party did something wrong. If you look at the contents of Yoon Suk Yeol diplomacy and see that someone like Young Kim has not received any briefing at that time, you can recognize that this is a problem. Young Kim has a constituency in the state of California. There are many Koreans. He was originally an aide to U.S. Rep. Ji Han-gye and took over. That's why, from the standpoint of South Korea, I think we shouldn't be conciliatory with North Korea if we communicate well with this person and reflect the understanding of South Korea. But Trump has become more conciliatory to North Korea. When he takes office, he says he and Kim Jong Un are friends. So, you have to use it, but since you said you were going to impeach him and put in foreign policy, Young Kim may make a misjudgment in a situation where he is not that knowledgeable.

◇ Lee Ik-seon: Representative Lee Jae-myung said that a new strategy should be prepared with a strong alliance between South Korea and the U.S. regarding the launch of the second Trump period. What do you think of representative Lee's diplomatic moves?

☆ Shin Kyung-min: So if you say that quickly, you're just writing the impeachment inquiry and writing it randomly. Someone with no insight would have written such a hectic decision to write diplomatic policies and loudspeakers against North Korea and write this as the reason for impeachment. Someone must have written it by the Democratic Party, but this is wrong. Representative Lee Jae-myung is a person who has little diplomatic insight from his career. I've never done diplomacy before. However, there is one thing that created a peace governor with the desire to do something with North Korea. He wanted to go to North Korea, but he couldn't go to North Korea properly. So it's a reaction there. Representative Lee Jae-myung doesn't have a few diplomatic comments. There aren't many, but there are a few that the host said.

◇ Lee Ik-seon: It was controversial because the U.S. forces were called occupiers in the past.

☆ Shin Kyung-min: This is the logic of the right to exercise, and then there are the right to exercise around Lee Jae-myung. There are still some of them. When they said that, I just followed them without thinking. But now that I look at it, I'm saying something ridiculous. Now, I'm saying this because the alliance between the U.S. and South Korea is the most important thing for the president of our country.

◇ Lee Ik-seon: That's it for you two. Until Gyeongok High School, I was with two former lawmakers, Chung Ok-im and Shin Kyung-min. Thank you for saying that.


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