□ Broadcast date and time: January 22, 2025 (Wednesday)
□ Host: Lee Ik-seon, Choi Soo-young
□ Performers: Kim Kyung-jin, former member of the People's Power, Park Joo-min, member of the Democratic Party of Korea
<Rep. Park Joo-min of the Democratic Party of Korea>
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<Kim Kyung-jin, former member of the People's Power>
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◇ Lee Ik-seon: Let's change the subject. Recently, a series of surveys have shown that the ruling and opposition parties' approval ratings have reversed. Similar trends are seen in all three major research institutes that have analyzed the trend of party approval ratings for a long time, including NBS, Gallup, and Realmeter, which are national indicators. Former Prime Minister Kim Boo-kyum said, "The fact that the Democratic Party, which has been in charge of political affairs as the main party in the house, fell short of the public's expectations should be reflected in the approval rating." I'll ask each of you about your opinions.
☆ Park Ju-min: Recently, the approval rating of the ruling party has been high in opinion polls. But to a certain extent, what would the ruling party's supporters say? It's active. I think it's true that you're responding to a lot of polls. But that's how opinion polls are supposed to be. Since it goes back and forth in both timing and situation, it is difficult to say that this is a fabricated poll. Obviously, there is a trend, so from our party's point of view, we need to look at it with tension. In addition, some point out that they have taken less in terms of people's livelihoods and the economy, but you have to listen to that pain and work hard. I've been doing it, but when there are so many big issues, it gets buried a lot. We should work harder and take care of people's livelihoods, and try harder to receive trust and love from the people.
◆ Choi Soo-young: Among the criticisms of Chairman Kim Boo-kyum, this part of the Democratic Party of Korea's response to it without being adult has led to many interpretations.
☆ Park Ju-min: What did it mean to be immature?
◆ Choi Soo-young: Representative Park wanted to hear the interpretation.
☆ Park Ju-min: I don't know. Some people use the expression that our party is in a bit of a hurry, but it's hard for me to agree on that part. After the act of rebellion against the emergency martial law, I was worried about second and third martial law. I thought we needed to stabilize this as soon as possible and isolate and disable the risk factors, and I focused all my efforts on that. Many people responded to it, and even many members of the ruling party agreed, so impeachment was carried out, and even after impeachment, there were some things that needed to be equipped for smooth restoration of constitutional order, but because they were not well equipped, I had no choice but to focus my energy on them. The process may seem rough, but I'll tell you that there were some parts that were needed. As I said earlier, we will take more care of people's livelihoods and the economy. I've been doing it until now, but I'll try hard to make it more realistic. We will also say that we will work hard on what our party has to do.
◇ Lee Ik-seon: Representative Kim, how did you see the progress of the poll?
★ Kim Kyung-jin: If you look at it right after martial law, you must have thought about what happened and why that decision came out over time. In particular, as I said earlier, President Yoon did not take bribes from anywhere, nor did he do anything mean, and I think there are quite a few sympathy for that. The people's evaluation is the evaluation of those in power. President Yoon is being tried for impeachment and is being investigated after being arrested for rebellion. Although the legal status of the incumbent president is maintained, in fact, it is a state that has been the subject of some investigation rather than a powerful person. However, in the case of representative Lee Jae-myung, he is also indicted in 12 categories, but the current state of being the most powerful person in Korea is not assigned to party leader Lee Jae-myung. From the people's point of view, what the hell is this? What happened? Maybe anger or anger? I think that's why the polls are going like this as these things gather.
◇ Lee Ik-seon: I heard that the Democratic Party has created a special polling committee on this backsliding of approval ratings. In fact, the objection to certain polls was rejected by the Central Women's Review and Assessment Commission. In the case of lawmaker Park Ji-won, he advised me not to do this.
☆ Park Ju-min: The party's recent atmosphere is moving toward finding what the party needs to do, as I said earlier, rather than responding to the results of the poll immediately. I think that's how it'll be caught.
◆ Choi Soo-young: As a result of this, there is a golden cross phenomenon in which the party's approval rating continues to decline and the so-called people's power is ahead, and there is a gap between representative Lee Jae-myung and the party's approval rating, so former chief of staff Lim Jong-seok said, "Can the Democratic Party win the trust of the people now that we only look at one representative Lee Jae-myung?" Former lawmaker Woo Sang-ho will also conduct microscopic verification of the Democratic Party and its representative Lee as the era of Yoon Suk Yeol goes on. We can win the presidential election only after a complete change. I think it's a little painful to point out, but I'd like to hear lawmaker Park's interpretation.
☆ Park Ju-min: If there is an early presidential election or something like that, of course, there could be various races or things like that depending on the procedures set by our party. Then, lawmakers like Kim Boo-kyum, who you just mentioned, may come out and work hard to get a choice. It's all at home. You don't have to worry too much about that because you're going to go through such a procedure. However, as I said earlier, we have to accept what many people are worried about regarding the party's approval rating, so we had no choice but to put less energy into people's livelihoods and other areas. Since that situation is being organized to some extent, I will say that I will put more energy into people's livelihoods and the economy and work hard so that the common people and the people can feel it as I said earlier.
◇ Lee Ik-seon: Representative Lee Jae-myung will hold a New Year's press conference tomorrow. This is the first official announcement of the award since the emergency martial law. What kind of remarks do you expect to make here?
☆ Park Ju-min: I think you're going to talk a lot about people's livelihoods and the economy. You've taken a lot of steps in that direction recently, and I think that will be the main content given the remarks made at the top today.
◆ Choi Soo-young: It is said that CEO Lee Jae-myung is taking care of the convening of the 6th president of the commercial bank the day before yesterday, but in reality, there is a dissenting opinion that this already smells like a powerful person. How do you see this?
★ Kim Kyung-jin: It may vary depending on how you see it. You can't say it's wrong, but it's true in Jeolla-do.
◆ Choi Soo-young: Okay. Representative Park, you are the chairman of the National Assembly's Health and Welfare Committee. Yesterday, you said that if the reform of the national pension parameter is accelerated in terms of welfare, it will be possible even next month. Is it really possible? I failed by one end, so I'm still on hold, but is it possible?
☆ Park Ju-min: It's a very controversial issue. I've met the government behind the scenes and there's room for me to meet various officials of the People's Power and members of the Health and Welfare Committee. There's plenty of room for a settlement. I thought it was ripe. That's why I said I'd speed up. Let's do parameter reform first.
◇ Profit line: Please explain the concept of parametric reform.
☆ Park Ju-min: There are two big pillars of parameter reform: premium rate and income replacement rate. It's usually called parametric reform when you look at two large pillars in your pension. The relationship with other pensions and such things are usually called structural reform. As you just said in the 21st National Assembly, parametric reform has been rarely done and in fact, parametric reform can be completed quickly. Because it's also necessary for financial stabilization and things like that. Structural reforms, relationships with other pensions, and these difficult issues have many different interests, so we have to give you time. I think we can leave the part for a year or two.
◆ Choi Soo-young: You've roughly said that you're almost narrowing down with the power of the people, but then when you reform parameters, you get an income replacement rate and an insurance premium rate. Should I say that the fine adjustment is almost over?
☆ Park Ju-min: We didn't even talk about the figures, but we talked about it a lot, so if we discuss it in earnest, I'm in an atmosphere where the debate is severe, but the answer can come out. In the past, rather than having a discussion, I fought with these sides about how to structure the discussion, but now I persuaded them a lot to discuss it somehow. I persuaded them a lot about how important the structure was, so we decided to discuss it to some extent.
◆ Choi Soo-young: Do you think it will be possible within the first half of the year?
☆ Park Ju Min: We have to hurry.
◇ Lee Ik-seon: Let me talk about former Prime Minister Kim Boo-kyum. He said, "If I put the gun on me to stabilize the country and restore people's livelihoods, I will carry it," but he hinted at running for president.
☆ Park Ju-min: Is that so?
◆ Choi Soo-young: Rep. Shin Kyung-min came out yesterday and I think we need a bridesmaid. Do you agree that who is really competitive with representative Lee Jae-myung and who can be satisfied will have a very subtle relationship?
☆ Park Ju-min: I don't know. I haven't thought about that yet.
◇ Lee Ik-seon: Representative Kim Kyung-jin released a new book called "AI Life, Every Moment Is Different". I think you can brag about this briefly.
★ Kim Kyung-jin: Artificial intelligence. Blogging, cafes, media articles, and university textbooks on every book and computer in the world are AI, so you can get answers, recommendations, or advice from him if you ask anything. Don't think that you only use it for work. For example, if you play golf, you can ask about your golf posture. You can also ask about health common sense. You can ask me what I should do with my diet because I have diabetes. You can ask me anything.
☆ Park Ju-min: I'm asking everything, too. I'm asking where to go during this year's Lunar New Year holiday.
★ Kim Kyung-jin: Don't think that you're using artificial intelligence for work, but think that you're using it for your daily life. There is a minister of science and technology outside, and I saw an article today that it is going to build a 2 trillion-dollar data center, but right now, Meta and Google are buying GPUs for 10 trillion won or 20 trillion won a year. Isn't there a chipset that goes into the data center? The core of the artificial intelligence data center is GPU, and one company in the United States invests 10 trillion and 20 trillion won a year in purchasing GPUs. That's the AI data center, and I'll make it at most 2 trillion won in a state-run data center in the whole of Korea. Like this. Since Young-gu's Republic of Korea cannot keep up with it, the Republic of Korea is wondering whether or not to follow even if it invests more than 10 trillion won a year in AI-related investments. Ask me later. Get a grip and spend at least 20 trillion won.
☆ Park Ju-min: Trump said he was going to invest 700 trillion won. upon taking office
★ Kim Kyung-jin: Trump will attract companies around the world and invest about 700 trillion won in data centers. But it's the foundation of everything. Military, life science.
◇ Profit line: Okay. I was with former lawmaker Kim Kyung-jin, author of "AI Life, Every Moment Is Different", and Democratic Party lawmaker Park Joo-min. Thank you.
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