On the day of our tour in 尹..."Three Gatherings" Dinner with 20 close friends?

■ Host: Kim Sun-young Anchor
■ Starring: Yoon Hee-seok, the People's Power Pre-Lease Spokesperson, Seo Yong-ju, Director of the Political and Social Research Institute

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[Anchor]
a political commentary with a lively angle Let's get started on time. Today, we have Yoon Hee-seok, a spokesman for the People's Power, and Seo Yong-ju, director of the Political and Social Research Institute. Welcome. Let's check out the first keyword. Please show us. There was a dinner last night for close-knit MPs. At this meeting, CEO Han Dong-hoon reportedly said, "Please follow me." Director Seo Yong-joo, follow me, it's a meeting of close lawmakers, what kind of intentions can you see for a meeting like this?

[Applicant owner]
You can tell from the writing. We watch a lot of movies when they tell us to follow me. When you occupy the high ground, follow me. To the front of the charge. So, I think the clearest analysis is to see that CEO Han Dong-hoon's counterattack has actually begun. Rather than seeing this as a venue to discuss various pending issues within the party with various lawmakers, Chairman Han Dong-hoon seems to have decided to increase his control of the party by using cracks and cracks through Kim Dae-nam's case at a time when he has been almost politically ostracized by Yongsan and his close friends within the party. Recently, floor leader Choo Kyung-ho and President Yoon Suk Yeol said, "We are one." Follow me for that.

[Anchor]
We're the other one, is this it?

[Applicant owner]
There are parentheses for us to be one. Except for Dong-hoon, we are one, so I say that I think it will be clearly interpreted in the message.

[Anchor]
Let's get together, too. Friendship lawmakers met yesterday, and if it's that kind of meeting, it's not lightning, so did you contact them about a few days ago and prepare thoroughly?

[Yoon Heesuk]
I don't know that situation, but I think I had no choice but to meet him yesterday. First of all, the Friday before that, there was a process of re-deciding and voting down three bills, including the Special Prosecutor Act on First Lady Kim Gun-hee, at the National Assembly, and looking at the number of our party votes from that, it was a little unusual. In addition, reports of suspicions related to First Lady Kim Gun-hee continued, and from today, the parliamentary audit will begin. Therefore, yesterday was the time for the party leader to discuss the government audit measures and these pending political issues with the lawmakers and send a message over the weekend. From that point of view, I think there is a possibility that we met close to lightning.

[Anchor]
Lightning, not lightning. From a viewpoint. But it was a necessary moment, so this is how you see it. Director Seo Yong-joo said, "It's the beginning of a counterattack," but the Democratic Party of Korea said, "Chairman Han Dong-hoon can't even propose a law, can't gather 10 people," but yesterday, there were more than 20 people.

[Applicant owner]
We'll have to wait and see. So, Kim Dae-nam's case is not a big deal, and the pro-yoon group, such as Rep. Na Kyung-won, and the president's office, talk about it, but I don't think this part will be overlooked. Because CEO Han Dong-hoon is not very close to Yun, clearly. The pro-Yoon group tried to destroy candidate Han Dong-hoon at the time by collaborating with a left-leaning YouTuber. I predicted that there might be Yongsan behind it, but that's not clear. That's why representative Han Dong-hoon didn't target the presidential office. However, considering that the party has not softened its will to take the root in this regard, it means that it will no longer be swayed by pro-Yoon in its control over the party, and that there have been talks with 20 lawmakers about not singing Yongbei-cheon-ga in the parliamentary inspection ahead of the parliamentary inspection. President Yoon Suk Yeol may have called floor leader Choo Kyung-ho and standing committee chairman to ask for parliamentary inspection ahead of the parliamentary inspection. What would he have said?

Considering that First Lady Kim Gun-hee is likely to be the subject of an inspection, it is a slightly different message from the request to defend well, so I think another special prosecution will be proposed after the lawmakers' response to the inspection. So, I think that the response itself of those parts is an issue to pay attention to.

[Anchor]
Anyway, in such a situation where the Yoon Han conflict continues, can you show me the attendance book for yesterday's close dinner, graphically once again? That attendance list will be a very meaningful list within the party, right?

[Applicant owner]
That's right. When I first have this dinner, not only will the attendance book be released, but all the lawmakers who attended there will know. Now, speaking of being publicly close, that is, a person who follows CEO Han Dong-hoon, he is fixed.

[Anchor]
The people who took pictures over there.

[Applicant owner]
That's right. In that regard, it is likely that subtle changes in the atmosphere will be detected within the party.

[Anchor]
Rep. Park Jung-hoon, who attended yesterday's dinner in person, said this about yesterday's dinner. Let's listen to it. From now on, let's analyze the list of yesterday's attendance. I saw the attendance book and lawmaker Joo Jin-woo left. That's what I thought. How do you see it? You're from the presidential office.

[Applicant owner]
If you're from the presidential office, you shouldn't feel the same way as CEO Han Dong-hoon, and you have this premise. Wouldn't [Anchor] Yongsan be disappointed?

[Yoon Heesuk]
That means that Yongsan and Han Dong-hoon's leadership are so conflicted that they are treated like opposition parties. They have different ideas, so they are exposed to the media and the public.Ma said, "This situation was a meeting to prepare for the parliamentary audit and to discuss how to respond to various risks arising from the ruling party in the future, so I think Joo Jin-woo's role in the party is definitely someone who can attend this meeting. Looking at the relationship with the president and the relationship with representative Han Dong-hoon, you can interpret what happened, which is something you will answer directly, but it was not that surprising from my point of view.

[Anchor]
Anyway, in the case of lawmaker Joo Jin-woo, isn't it Chin-yoon? There are a lot of people who think like this, so if you come out, it's a proof that you're close. That's why there's even an expression like "I've changed the route." How do you see that?

[Applicant owner]
I don't think it's a line. In my opinion, Representative Joo Jin-woo is an internal situation of the people's power. Spokesman Yoon Hee-seok knows better, but on the surface, if you look at the various behaviors of Representative Joo Jin-woo, it's a two-legged operation. The winner is on my side. So, what Representative Joo Jin-woo has recently done through YouTube is very active in defending President Yoon Suk Yeol and First Lady Kim Gun-hee. He took himself as the Democratic Party's striker. It explains the defense strategies in very detail about President Yoon Suk Yeol and First Lady Kim Gun-hee. Then, it should be considered that he plays the most roles in pro-yoon. Nevertheless, going to CEO Han Dong-hoon's meeting means that if CEO Han Dong-hoon does well, it will be worth my investment as a future power. It's not a bad idea to invest in both. So I'm a decentralized investment type politician by speaking nicely of Representative Joo Jin-woo, and I'd like to say that.

[Anchor]
If you show me the picture a little while ago, the lawmaker who took the biggest picture of today's dinner was Cho Kyung-tae. What background do you think Cho Kyung-tae went to that seat?

[Applicant owner]
I'm Cho Kyung-tae, a lawmaker who started with the Democratic Party of Korea in the past, went to the people's power, and lined up with people who can do it in the people's power. So I think he thinks it's Han Dong-hoon's turn this time, but I refrain from making personal evaluations. First of all, isn't there three out of the four lawmakers who opposed and then invalidated the special prosecution? First of all, Representative Cho Kyung-tae clearly shows his will to serve as the leader of a close relationship, in the picture. It's close to the right side, so the shoulder line is almost attached. So I think it's very likely that Representative Cho Kyung-tae will now have a message of confidence in his own close circle, that's what it looks like.

[Anchor]
If you look at the picture, you can see it like this, but lawmaker Kim Jae-seop stood out on the list yesterday. I heard it was a surprise visit, but did you come and go for a while? What happened?

[Yoon Heesuk]
I understand that he came and went for a while. So you knew about the meeting yesterday, right? In the process, I think I got to know the place through some route. You don't have to go in that situation. Anyway, I know that you can understand it to some extent by stopping by because you have something you want to say.

[Anchor]
Isn't it a proof that you're close to each other?

[Yoon Heesuk]
If you look at it from the perspective of attending, you can count like that in the media, but what do you think? In any case, lawmaker Kim Jae-seop is a person who makes many independent remarks and moves according to his opinion, so I think it's half and half.

[Anchor]
It's not a perfect friend because it's been 20 minutes, but I think it's half and half, but I think it's not, and he said yesterday that let's bring one more person to the next meeting of the people who gathered today. Do you think it can be doubled next time?

[Applicant owner]
So I think CEO Han Dong-hoon has been lonely in the party in many ways. It's a multi-level method to bring one more person. Right? That kind of approach can be seen as a way to increase the amount of tax. It seems that 20 people are not enough, and now it is the will to renew the atmosphere of the party, which was suppressed by pro-yoon, and establish a certain position as representative Han Dong-hoon. It won't be known? If you bring 20 people one by one, it becomes 40. Then, when there are about 40 people, representative Han Dong-hoon's position in the party will grow to some extent. Practically. So the blatant and ostensible disclosure of those parts reveals the claws that CEO Han Dong-hoon has cringed. To add a little more, in the case of Rep. Kim Jae-seop, I am a young politician who claims to do my politics without factions. However, although attending Han Dong-hoon's representative meeting may be misunderstood, I think we can reasonably judge that the party is closer to Han Dong-hoon's representative than to Yongsan to some extent.

[Anchor]
I'll have to see if it's coming to the next meeting. In the previous analysis, there were not as many pro-Yoon-gye as expected. Rep. Park Jung-hoon personally analyzed that there are about 20 to 30 people, do you agree?

[Yoon Heesuk]
As you say in the street, there are 60 to 70 people, and it doesn't seem to be that much. Since Rep. Park Jung-hoon is on the floor, he knows the situation much better, but I feel that there are many people in areas similar to neutral zones. So, the conclusion was that we were all pro-Yoon from the beginning, but the response of various political issues shown by the Presidential Office in Yongsan and how much we agree on it are different for each lawmaker. Since time has passed. So it's not like you're suspending your judgment or accepting it uncritically. So, as each person's thoughts were reflected, lawmaker Park Jung-hoon made remarks about how many close they were to each other, but even I see a lot of people who don't respond at all. If you look closely, there are not many articles with the names of lawmakers in this chaotic situation, right? So they're all on the lookout. That's how much I'm thinking.

[Anchor]
Is there anyone who's invited to dinner but hasn't?

[Yoon Heesuk]
I don't think so. That meeting itself was held in a group chat room where those people and those who attended now were included. That's why I don't have room to call other people.

[Anchor]
Then, I will increase the number of people in the group chat room a little more at the next meeting, is this the right atmosphere to be formed?

[Applicant owner]
Another meeting.

[Yoon Hee-seok]
This means that we're going to have a factional meeting. Even in the Liberal Democratic Party of Japan, there were no factions. You may think so, but I don't think it's good for us to classify the party leader in this way, because it's a meeting held by the party leader, the party's strategy, the floor strategy, the analysis of the political situation, and the more lawmakers gather in the process of doing this, and it's not good for us to divide it in this way, not according to the pro-Soviet relationship.

[Anchor]
Anyway, Daegu Mayor Hong Joon Pyo criticized yesterday's dinner very harshly. This is what it's about. Please show me the graphic. I've been in politics for more than 30 years and I've never done such factional activities. He said that it was a strange meeting at a very strange time, saying that he did not even create a faction, and that he was trying to make a Bareun Party like he did Park Geun Hye, or threatening the president with several weapons. Are you threatening Yongsan? You interpreted it like this.

[Applicant owner]
So, Daegu Mayor Hong Joon Pyo also represented the power of the people. So you must have a concept of party politics, but when you see him talking so critically, he doesn't just ask or question, and he hates representative Han Dong-hoon. I don't think I can admit that everything CEO Han Dong-hoon does is just annoying to the eye, but he may not have been involved in factional activities, but I don't think I can admit that he didn't create a factional group. As far as I can see, Daegu Mayor Hong Joon Pyo did not create a faction, but he did not.

[Anchor]
It's a so-called self-taught expression...

[Seoyongju]
Because he was a Dokgodai politician, he was not in a political condition to create a faction. Then, if it seems to be a politics that threatens the president, not only party politics but also the ruling party and the president's office need to cooperate organically, but horizontal party-government relations basically lead to party politics. Then, if the person who has run a political party and represented the party sees it as a threat to make a different sound from the party, then he admits that President Yoon Suk Yeol is a king and an irresistible person, so I think he just replaced the words "I don't like representative Han Dong-hoon."

[Anchor]
Anyway, it was right that we had a dinner at a strange time, but Han Dong-hoon, the leader of the party who presided over the dinner, spoke strongly again this morning regarding the alleged attack on the party leader. Let's hear what you're talking about. When Han Dong-hoon ordered an inspection in connection with the controversy over former administrator Kim Dae-nam, Na Kyung-won and others criticized, "This is the act of doing this, why are you raising your work so much?" But Han Dong-hoon said today that there should be a minimum level of discipline in relation to such controversy within the party.

[Yoon Heesuk]
That's right. I respond because Kim Dae-nam's story attacked me. Rather than this, the situation in which he could attack was completely wrong. In other words, it's not another media called "Sound of Seoul," and I don't know if I should call it a media, but it's not a media that caused various problems related to Kim Gun-hee. I'm talking about it in that sense because the whole nation has heard the recording of secretly buying something for those people. The reason why this is called old politics is because the standard of evaluation of measures to correct the wrong part of the party is different from what Na Kyung-won and Hong Joon Pyo say. That's the old way. If the same thing happened to Na Kyung-won and Hong Joon Pyo, would you be able to say the same thing? In that dimension, I would like to evaluate.

[Anchor]
Anyway, I'm CEO Han Dong-hoon, who has been consistent with a strong response. There are also media reports that former administrator Kim Dae-nam announced today that he will resign as a full-time auditor of Seoul Guarantee. I think this problem will be noisy at the National Assembly.

[Applicant owner]
Of course, it's bound to be noisy. This is what Kim Dae-nam said. Is it called a political maneuver? Although it happened within the party, what the Democratic Party of Korea and the opposition party see is that it was behind Yongsan. This is because it's a national convention, so it can be a duty.

That is why the presidential office and the presidential couple were involved in party affairs. What I want to look into so far is the opposition party's position, and from the perspective of the people's power, Kim Dae-nam tried to destroy Han Dong-hoon by communicating with what people in the party, and if this happened in the Democratic Party of Korea, this is an act of transfer if you think about it as a country. So, they tried to eliminate the power inside by using forces other than the same within their own party, so I think it's weird for people to just move on with these parts, and then the presidential office's position is a little strange. For this reason, if the Democratic Party of Korea reveals it widely in the parliamentary inspection, and if it is revealed through inspection from within in the power of the people, this substance will be revealed.

[Anchor]
The fact that former administrator Kim Dae-nam will appear as a witness in the parliamentary inspection will also be a point to watch. The National Assembly opened today, and we will look at the Democratic Party's resolution in the next topic. To the end of the earth. Park Chan-dae, the floor leader, used the expression "to the end of the earth." He expressed his determination to investigate the suspicion of Kim Gun-hee to the end of the earth.

[Applicant owner]
That's right. Mrs. Kim Gun-hee's suspicions have snowballed, so I don't know where to start. Not only that suspicion, but the president continues to block the suspicion with the power delegated by the people. So, if the president resolves it at the public's level, he will be able to focus on the inspection of people's livelihoods during the parliamentary audit, but since the president continues to protect his spouse with the right to veto, he should dig into it and inform the public. It shows the firm will to do so. If you look at it now, Deutsche Motors' stock price manipulation, the luxury white goods scandal, and Myung Tae-kyun's intervention in the nomination process, and Kim Dae-nam. Even if you look at it big, there are four things. There will be Yangpyeong Expressway.

Therefore, it seems that the Democratic Party of Korea has expressed that it will not give up on the comprehensive set of suspicions about Kim Gun-hee's snowballing corruption by each standing committee.

[Anchor]
In any case, many lawmakers are mentioning it now, and rumors that there is even evidence that the Democratic Party of Korea is stuck in, not just a battle. Should I say that the power of the people is preparing for such a situation? At yesterday's friendly dinner, there was talk of countermeasures. That's what they said.

[Yoon Heesuk]
Suspicions related to First Lady Kim Gun-hee, limited to that, we really don't know what evidence the Democratic Party has. For example, we don't know what video data we have, whether it's voice data or a capture of a secret message, so it's difficult for us to plan our response in advance. I think that was probably discussed a lot at yesterday's dinner. Then CEO Han Dong-hoon said that. A solution is needed, we all agree on that. If so, we can prevent it to some extent because we oppose the passing of the Special Prosecutor Act, but I think it is highly likely that it has been a place to discuss other solutions to reduce the pressure on the passing of the Special Prosecutor Act.

[Anchor]
If something more evidence comes out, there is a possibility that this single battalion could be a little disturbed, do you see it like this?

[Yoon Heesuk]
You can do that. This time, there are 104 votes against it. When all the New Reform Party voted for it, it is 104 votes. If even a few of the three New Reform Party voted against it, the number of leave votes we think will be more than four. Then, arithmetically, a very dangerous situation arises. The situation is very different considering that there was only one vote of departure at the end of the last 21s. That analysis is also fully possible.

[Anchor]
It's such an anonymous vote, so where did you leave after looking at that number? There are some analyses coming out. There is also an analysis that the New Reform Party will also be a departure vote. Let's listen to lawmaker Park Jung-hoon, lawmaker Jeon Yong-gi, and how they analyzed votes.

Rep. Lee Jun-seok, Rep. Cheon Ha-ram. Isn't there a possibility that Lee Joon-seok and Cheon Ha-ram, who met each other, opposed it? Do you think it's a reasonable doubt from this perspective?

[Applicant owner]
I don't think it's a reasonable doubt. Lee Joon-seok and Cheonha-ram may have nothing to do with their own votes. Because looking at the political style of Lee Joon-seok and Cheon Ha-ram, it was reported that the Chilbulsa Temple planted red plum blossoms and recently had a relationship, so Kim Gun-hee's special prosecutor is saying that the people should do this, but there is no need to make such a political calculation, it's an anonymous name. So I don't think the two of them would have moved. However, what is clear to me is that within the power of the people, the vote in favor has clearly moved.

[Anchor]
How many do you expect?

[Applicant owner]
I think there are four people in constant number. For example, if the functional relationship is Lee Joon-seok and Cheon Ha-ram, there can be more than four people. There are four of us since last time. So next time, when Kim Gun-hee's voice and videos are released to the public at the parliamentary inspection, lawmakers can't be confident when they get four plus. In that sense, shouldn't CEO Han Dong-hoon set up measures in Yongsan, but I think so.

[Anchor]
There's a possibility that it's four plus. Then, in the next vote, there will be no way but to say that we can't guarantee this even within the power of the people, right?

[Yoon Heesuk]
In order to prevent such a situation, I told you earlier that it is highly likely that the discussion on the solution was at yesterday's dinner. However, one thing I have to say is that we will try a third time for the special prosecution law, which is strengthened when the Democratic Party of Korea continues to pass the special prosecution law that makes political disputes in this way, regarding Kim Gun-hee. When that happens, the outcome of the vote won't change much. This is a story at the level of political strife between the ruling and opposition parties, but I will reveal the truth, and it may not have much to do with the results of the vote because these intentions are obscured.

[Anchor]
Anyway, I think this will be an important variable as to what the Democratic Party of Korea, which will go all the way to the end of the earth, will present in this parliamentary inspection. There are quite a lot of reporters at Yongsan Police Station right now. Let's take a look at the last topic. Moon Da-hye is suspected of driving under the influence of alcohol. She is expected to be summoned as early as today. However, reporters are waiting in front of Yongsan Police Station because it has not been confirmed whether it will really come out today or what time it will come out.

Various CCTV screens have been released through the media, and it would be nice if you could show the screen. Anyway, there is no refutation for the Democratic Party to make a special comment on the drunk driving situation, right? How should I look at it?

[Applicant owner]
Of course, this is indisputable. Anyone can see that the video is also a video. Drunk driving itself doesn't need any political interpretation. It was also very inappropriate for the people. That's true when it comes to this. Even if Moon Da-hye has recently had a prosecution investigation and is psychologically difficult, she should overcome it. Those things are the factors that contribute to driving under the influence of alcohol? That's something that can't be explained. This should apologize to the people and take responsibility for the legal responsibilities. This is what the Republic of Korea should do as a rule of law country and then as a child of a former president, and furthermore, I think it would be appropriate for the people to express some regrets about former President Moon Jae In.

only then within the power of the people Can't the president of Yoon Suk Yeol continue to protect Kim Geon-hee's veto power and the prosecution can criticize the parts that give preferential treatment without following fairness and common sense? In that regard, I have no choice but to say that Moon Da-hye's drunk driving part was very upsetting and inappropriate.

[Anchor]
I think it would be nice if you could continue to show the scene from the accident. Anyway, it is a situation that is being investigated by the prosecution right now, and there may be various opinions from the supporters, but do you think there will be official positions of former President Moon Jae In or something like that? What do you think?

[Yoon Hee-seok]
If President Moon takes this seriously, he may express his position from the standpoint of his daughter, although it is a matter of his daughter. In my view, Moon Da-hye is an adult and has a history of political positions several times, so I think it's the order to at least express your position on this issue first.

[Anchor]
The situation at the time of the accident, while making a left turn on the right-turn lane, caused congestion in the area and later collided with a taxi. Let's hear from the ruling and opposition parties about Moon Da-hye's drunk driving this morning. Let's hear from floor leader Park Chan-dae and representative Han Dong-hoon. What you just heard was Park Chan-dae, the floor leader of the Democratic Party,'s remarks at a press conference yesterday and Jang Dong-hyuk, the supreme council member of the People's Power, this morning. I'll correct it.

In any case, supporters are now saying, "How hard would it have been to investigate the prosecution?" and Moon Da-hye recently expressed her position on social media regarding the prosecution's investigation. If you attend an investigation today, do you think it is necessary to clarify your position in front of the media, and how do you see it?

[Leader of Seo Yong-ju]
You need to reveal it. There is no objection that Moon Da-hye's drunk driving itself is very inappropriate. However, it seems inappropriate to criticize former President Moon Jae In or highlight the investigation related to former President Moon Jae In with this issue. Since you are an adult, you are legally responsible for the parts you are responsible for, and it is right for Moon Da-hye to clarify her position. The part you apologized to the people about yourself. Because your father was a former president. Then, first, he will reveal himself, and then I think former President Moon Jae In will probably express regret. But it's not easy to cultivate children. So, I think former President Moon Jae In would be upset about that, and he did something he really shouldn't do, but I find it a little annoying when former President Moon Jae In was president and drunk driving is a murder. Isn't that obvious? Take responsibility for your child's legal responsibility now for saying that? Since this is a political dispute, I would like to see if you do exactly what you are responsible for as an adult and then criticize it.

[Anchor]
Anyway, Moon Da-hye said that it is important to show responsibility in front of the media. So far, it has been two people, Yoon Hee-seok, a spokesman for the People's Power, and Seo Yong-ju, director of the Political and Social Research Institute. Thank you.