[Issue ON] Are storm shadows coming out?...Warning of "World War III"

■ Host: Anchor Kim Youngsoo Kim and Anchor Lee Ha-rin
■ Starring: Cho Han-beom, chair researcher at the Korea Institute for Unification,

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[Anchor
Ukraine first hit mainland Russia with long-range missiles.

[Anchor]
He shot a missile called 'A-Tax' made by the United States. Russia bristled and immediately lowered the threshold for nuclear retaliation. Let's take a closer look at the war situation, which is growing in tension, with Cho Han-beom, a researcher at the Korea Institute for Unification.
Welcome.

[Cho Han-beom]
Hello,

[Anchor]
Hello. Let me ask you a North Korean question. According to the criticism of the National Intelligence Service, North Korea not only dispatched troops to Russia, but also exported self-propelled artillery and multiple rocket launchers, is that correct?

[Cho Han-beom]
It's already been reported. That weapon is the main character of the Seoul Fire Sea remarks. 170mm curved cloth. So it was first identified in 1978, and it was improved again in 1989. The range is about 60km. Next, a new 240mm multiple rocket launcher, Kim Jong-un went here often this year. They say the range of this came out to 67km.

Then, drones are coming out to dominate the battlefield, but guns are the most important. Ukraine uses 155mm and Russia uses 152mm, but the range is 30-40mm. But I just opened a 60km long one.
So it's an unconfirmed report that there are 50 self-propelled guns and 20 multiple rocket launchers. If you go there, it's quite helpful for Russia's power.

[Anchor]
There have been many analyses that dispatch of troops is earning foreign currency, can I look at it in the same context?

[Cho Han-beom]
There's also a way to earn foreign currency. There is, but of course, you give money. It's going to cost a lot of things. In Russia, energy, oil, fertilizer, and food are the top three exports. I can give you everything. Then there are ICBMs, nuclear-powered submarines, and satellites that some say, but giving North Korea a conventional strategy is the most threat to us.

You can't see it, but if you support the technology, North Korea can follow the traditional power part that we are overwhelming. For example, the Sukhoi fighter factory was where Chairman Kim Jong-un was the longest when he went to Vostochny in September last year. We also formed a powerful air force by receiving a Phantom battalion with the dispatch of the Vietnam War. It was also the price of sending troops to the Vietnam War that changed the A1 rifle to the M rifle. Some say high-tech weapons have a lot to give.

[Anchor]
It seems that North Korea and Russia are getting closer and stronger. According to the NIS announcement, Chairman Kim Jong-un is likely to visit Russia again.

[Cho Han-beom]
There's a possibility. Because from Russia's point of view, for example, as of last month, there were 20,000 containers in North Korea, and 10 million in terms of shells. Then, Russia shoots 10,000 to 30,000 shots, and sometimes more. Then you can see that a huge amount of supplies have gone. Therefore, it is the heyday of North Korea-Russia closeness. Russia relies on North Korea for a large part of its war capabilities, and North Korea has now found an exit from isolation. So there's nothing strange about going back.

[Anchor]
Let's take a closer look at the attack. It was last night that Ukraine fired missiles at mainland Russia. It's the first time we've ever attacked the mainland.

[Cho Han-beom]
It's not the first time we've attacked the mainland. To be more specific, Bryansk was attacked in October last year with a drone. It's not confirmed yet. In the case of Crimea, it was a territory of Ukraine, but it was occupied by Russia. I used to attack here a lot. The attack is now the first U.S.-backed weapon to be on the Russian mainland.

So this Bryansk is now Russia's most important... ...because that's right next to Kursk. Why did you hit that side? The ammunition base coming to Kursk is right there. So, the reason why I'm scared of Attacks, which has a range of 300 kilometers, is that until now, that long-range weapon has not been allowed to be used within Russian territory. It's not a long distance, it's a short distance, but on that battlefield anyway. However, there is a battle in the Kursk-blackened area, and so far, Ukraine has only used that.

[Anchor]
That's where the North Korean army was sent.

[Cho Han-beom]
I couldn't use it there either. I only shot it on Ukrainian territory, but now I hit Bransk Oblast. I can hit everyone around there. So there's a significant strategic advantage for Ukraine.

[Anchor]
What kind of missile is it?

[Cho Han-beom]
These are all M-170 extensions. It's a 227mm multiple rocket launcher. It goes in 12 shots. But there are 12 shots, and there are 2 6-foot grapes. If you load it here, it goes in one shot at a time. So M27 has two feet. The U.S. gave me only one Ford.

It's the mainstay of the scrap yards, and there may be a single warhead there, but if you use a direct bullet in there, you'll get 950 grenades. The range of ideas for a grenade is 15 kilometers. 950 grenades fall from the sky, so three or four football fields, or about a 700m radius, are devastated. So it's a terrible weapon for Russia, you can see it like this.

[Anchor]
I'm showing you the major missile tables that Ukraine has right now, so let's compare them.

[Cho Han-beom]
The grain sandpaper I told you about is 155mm, 40km. That Hymas is the same as the Aty and Hymas launch vehicle. So, the HIMARS is a lightweight M27 and it's a high-speed vehicle. You can also use A-Tax on Hi-mas. Now, 80km is 80km when you use a rocket, and if you load it in Hymas, the range is 300. So, if it's deployed to the Kursk battlefield, Russia is up to 300km...

[Anchor]
In the meantime, the U.S. has not allowed that missile to be used on that battlefield, but it has changed its position. What's the reason for the change?

[Cho Han-beom]
It's North Korea. President Macron also said that, and according to reports, the North Korean military gave a justification. Because as the North Korean army came in, the balance of the war changed. They let me use the A-Tax to balance the weight, but I think they only let the North Korean military use it, but it's my judgment. But Ukraine preemptively hit the Russian military's rear ammunition depot, so we should look at it like this.

[Anchor]
Europe approved the use of long-range missiles for the same reason. There's a move to approve it, and it's called Storm Shadow. What is this missile like?

[Cho Han-beom]
This is even scarier. Because air-to-ground missiles were jointly developed by France and Britain. That's it. That's Storm Shadow in British and Scarf in French.

[Anchor]
Is that shooting from a fighter?

[Cho Han-beom]
That's 560 kilograms. But it's 220kg for export. It's only 500 to 600 kilometers short of the Ukrainian border. When Ukrainian fighters enter Russian airspace, they can hit Moscow. What's scarier than ATACKS is the storm shadow and scarp. That's enough to hit the main target in Moscow.

[Anchor]
Russia responded right away, but it expanded the scope of its nuclear weapons use. That's why I lowered the threshold. What exactly is it about?

[Cho Han-beom]
Originally, the international community recognized nuclear weapons countries because they did not attack non-nuclear countries. And Ukraine was the world's third-largest nuclear power, but when it gave up, of course, it was not binding. But I promised I wouldn't attack anyway.

However, it is possible to attack countries supported by nuclear powers as to what has been done by revising the doctrine. Now that NATO and the United States are supporting Ukraine, it means that they will hit Ukraine. So it's a desperate situation for Putin.

Why? Although Putin is superior in the battlefield, it is Russia's military power that shrinks even if the country limits its range. So, since we're bringing in the North Korean military now, the West and the United States allowed us to attack long distances, not long distances, in order to catch up with Gyun Hung-chu. So, of course, there are not many missiles like Atax or such, but they are limited.

However, if it is used in earnest, the aspect of this war can change, and the storm troop dispatched does not have armoured equipment. So direct bullets are very vulnerable. So if it's used by the North Korean military, there's a possibility of a devastating blow. [Anchor] You mentioned the possibility of World War III.

[Cho Han-beom]
That's an exaggeration. Even in a difficult situation to fight against Ukraine. That's how sensitive it is.

[Anchor]
However, looking at the changes in the content of the Russian nuclear doctrine, the country that supported not only a non-nuclear state but also that non-nuclear state. So it's said that it was aimed at the United States.

[Cho Han-beom]
What it means to regard it as a joint attack is, of course, hidden there. Now the subject is a non-nuclear state. So, if a non-nuclear state attacks with the support of a nuclear state, it will be considered that the two attacked at the same time. So Ukraine is a non-nuclear country, but it attacks. However, it means that the countries that apply are also considered targets of attack. That's why I'm emphasizing nuclear war. The U.S. position is calm. It was foreseen.

[Anchor]
President Zelensky's special envoys are scheduled to visit Korea next week. Won't they ask us for weapons aid?

[Cho Han-beom]
Of course you will. I'm sure there are a lot of things. From various weapons support to various cooperative systems... the main purpose will be to expand support. However, in the current situation, we don't have any justification or practical use to support lethal weapons. Currently, we are in the process of establishing a cooperative system for the dispatch of North Korean troops. That's why we have not reached that stage yet.

[Anchor]
I see. Let's stop here. So far, I have been with Cho Han-beom, a chair researcher at the Korea Institute for Unification. Thank you.