Jang Ye-chan "Aunt Kim who criticized Han Dong-hoon? At least it's not a manipulation of public opinion.

◆ [YTN Radio SHINYUL's news]
■ Broadcasting: FM 94.5 (17:00-19:00)
■ Air date: November 27, 2024 (Wednesday)
■ Proceedings: Shin Yul, Professor of Political Science and Diplomacy at Myongji University
■ Talks: Jang Ye-chan, former member of the Supreme Council of the People's Power, Park Sung-min, former member of the Democratic Party of Korea

* The text below may differ from the actual broadcast content, so please check the broadcast for more accurate information.

Jang Ye-chan
- Seizure of People's Power? Preliminary exercise for 'bulletin board investigation'
- Seizure of party member bulletin board within December
- Han Dong-hoon 'prosecutor' and Joo Jin-woo 'lawyer'
- Aunt Kim's post? At least it's not 'public opinion manipulation'.

Park Sung-min
- Han Dong-hoon, responding strangely without much resistance to the company's seizure and search
- Han Dong-hoon, trying to use the central party's seizure and search as an opportunity?
- Party member bulletin board controversy, a problem that will end with one line of answer
- Party bulletin board, Han Dong-hoon 'reverse'
◆ Shin Yul: Shin Yul's news head-to-head match Part 1 will start with Yeouido Youth Politics as I said earlier. I'm going to introduce the two of you who will be with me today. You know it very well, right? I thought the sky was pierced earlier today. It doesn't usually snow, does it? The street situation is very bad right now. So one person is a little late. So first of all, there's only one person in the studio. You are in the studio of Park Sung-min of the Democratic Party of Korea. Hello

◇ Park Sung-min: Yes, hello.

◆ Shin Yul: He keeps asking me to introduce him.

◇ Park Sung-min: You have to show your presence. I made it obvious that I came early.

◆ Sin Yul: That's right. And former Supreme Council member Jang Ye-chan, the power of this people, is coming now. It will arrive soon, but the road conditions are not that good right now, so I think you can understand. I think it's going to snow again.

◇ Park Sung-min: No, yes. Actually, I walked around the streets a little when it snowed earlier, but it's kind of meaningless to use an umbrella.

◆ Shin Yul: I'm not really young, I'm young.

◇ Park Sung-min: No, I'm not walking while feeling the snow, but I have to go now, but even if I use an umbrella, the snow falls horizontally on my face, so I just left.

◆ Shin Yul: No, but I heard it's still snowing tomorrow. As of today, it's about 20cm, but today's weather is a little warm, so the snow melts.

◇ Park Sung-min: But I'm worried about the whole night. I'm afraid I'll freeze at night. That

◆ Sin Yul: That's the problem. It's wet. It's called wet snow. It freezes overnight. It snows on top of that. It's the worst. When I think about going to school tomorrow morning, I don't know what to do, but it's for students now. Online lecture? You keep saying things to catch someone.

◇ Park Sung-min: And there's something else the students want.

◆ Shin Yul: Oh, that's right. But I was really surprised when I saw this. Let's start the quiz. The ruling party has been raided before. You don't have one?

◇ Park Sung-min: There is no ruling party headquarters.

◆ Sin Yul: There is no central headquarters.

◇ Park Sung-min: There was a congressman's office.

◆ Shin Yul: We have local headquarters. During the Moon Jae In administration, the prosecution was the Democratic Party of Korea at the time of the ruling party. In my memory, the local headquarters have raided and searched, but they have never raided this central headquarters.

◇ Park Sung-min: But we've also come into the building of the Central Headquarters in the name of a search and seizure by the Democratic Research Institute, and we actually protested very hard at that time. But this time, the power of the people was also raided. You're talking about that, aren't you?

◆ Right, how should I watch it?

◇ Park Sung-min: But what I thought was a little strange was that the Democratic Party of Korea was actually a search and seizure by the Democratic Research Institute, but anyway, the seizure and search of the central party building was a serious violation of democracy, so I resisted very strongly. But if you look at it now, the power of the people does not resist that much. But what's wrong with that? And especially in the past, when I was raided and searched in the office of Representative Kim Woong, I protested very strongly and resisted a lot. I remember that there was a lot of shouting, but if you look at it this time, I will do it in a very refined position in the party or in a way that the prosecution and the prosecution do not infringe on anything in the party. He said that he said it like this and accepted it, but I wondered if it was because of that or what kind of justification the procedure had, and CEO Han Dong-hoon is actually in a very tight spot. I'll talk about the party's bulletin board behind it, but if you look at it now, representative Han Dong-hoon is making a TF related to the Myung Tae-kyun gate as a kind of counterattack. As a result, Han feels that he is responding to this by using it as a blessing in disguise to further increase the risk of pollack bacteria. Politically, this is an issue that needs to be protested as a party leader, but it is rather strange to see him respond in a low key. I thought it was a situation in which the position of Han Dong-hoon, an individual, and the position of Han Dong-hoon, the leader of the politician's party, were divided.

◆ Shin Yul: I thought about that again.

◇ Park Sung-min: I don't know if you're generous because you're a former prosecutor, but it's a big deal to search for the current party and even the ruling party's headquarters. And even when the Democratic Party of Korea asked to conduct a special prosecution on Lee Myung-tae-kyun, it was very opposed to those areas, and the issue of intervention in the nomination of Kim Gun-hee should be included in the special prosecution. I opposed this because I was very dissatisfied with the scope of some investigation coming into the party, so I resisted a lot. But this time, even though I looked at the entrance carefully on my way here, there wasn't a particularly strong resistance.

◆ Shin Yul: I should tell our listeners the secret of our Supreme Council member Park Sung-min. Park Sung-min is the best person who prepares this a lot. I'm not just talking about anything because I'm still here.

◇ Park Sung-min: If you say anything, you'll be in big trouble.

◆ Shin Yul: I've never seen a young man reading an editorial while reading a newspaper and underlining. It's true. I'm not saying this without it.

◇ Park Sung-min: I'm a little weak in digital text.

◆ Shin Yul: Oh, you're finally here. Everyone, our supreme council member Jang Ye Chan came here through the eyes. I'm glad you came safely.

■ Jang Ye-chan: I changed the broadcast date because it overlapped with the previous broadcast every time. I'm sorry I'm not going to be late anymore.

◆ Shin Yul: It's okay. No, the person in charge of the party's bulletin board came out and I was going to say that, but what Park Sung-min, the former best, was talking about earlier was that he was raided today. It's the first time in my view that the ruling party's central headquarters has been raided. This office in the ruling party's province has been raided. It's the first time the central headquarters of the Moon Jae In regime has been established, but Park Sung-min, the former best, thinks that we should raise this case of pollack bacteria and what do you call it?

◇ Park Sung-min: To snatch someone

◆ Sin Yul: I'm trying to get a little bit of a look at the bulletin board. That's why I didn't resist. How do you see it when you did this analysis?

■ Jang Ye-chan: First of all, the atmosphere of people's power was so peaceful and peaceful today. I wondered if this was the right party for the central headquarters to be raided. There are a lot of questions like that in the media, but I think there are two. Rather than a countermeasure, the current leadership does not seem to have much to do with pollack bacteria objectively. And it's not my business, so it's someone else's business, and the second is when representative Han Dong-hoon was the Minister of Justice, and the prosecution raided the Democratic Party of Korea's headquarters. The Democratic Party of Korea planned a scrum and the party officials came out and didn't allow the seizure and search.

◆ Shin Yul: It was a search and seizure by the Democratic Research Institute.

■ Jang Ye-chan: But this Democratic Research Institute was with us in Yeongdeungpo, so we blocked the entry. But a representative criticized that a lot. Officially, if you criticized it then, but oppose the seizure and search of the people's power now, there is no justification. So, I personally think there is no reason to oppose this, and it is not at the public's level to oppose and physically prevent the seizure and search by obtaining a warrant from the court, regardless of whether it is a case of Myung Tae-kyun or a warrant for seizure and search of party members. Because people, politicians and ordinary people, want to be treated the same way and don't want to give them any preferential treatment, so I think the peaceful passage of the seizure and search related to Myung Tae-kyun on the party's bulletin board is the shape of the political circle that needs to be changed, and I think the political party should cooperate smoothly even if a search warrant is issued for the people's power or the Democratic Party of Korea on different charges in the future.

◇ Park Sung-min: I pointed that out, too. What he said was that we're pushing for Kim Gun-hee's special prosecution. But we narrowed down the subject of the investigation. Originally, he asked to investigate various cases, but this time, of course, the president exercised his veto power again, but now let's narrow down the stock price manipulation issue to two after the suspicion of intervening in the nomination related to Myung Tae-kyun. In fact, one of the reasons why the ruling party strongly opposes the special prosecution law is that if the special prosecution is conducted on Myung Tae-kyun, the investigation into the party and other documents of the people who were nominated at the time will expand, so the special prosecution law is problematic. However, as you said, the Han Dong-hoon leadership is very calm about today's raid, so I thought that this might not add up.

■ Jang Ye-chan: But on the other hand, I think it's a rehearsal. Soon, there will be a search and seizure of the party's bulletin board, so any party should practice cooperating with the investigative agency peacefully and peacefully.

◆ Shin Yul: The police are investigating right now.

■ Jang Ye-chan: The accuser's investigation has been completed.

◆ Shin Yul: But what are you investigating now? So you're investigating this name theft? Or are you investigating the content?

■ Jang Ye-chan: The main charges related to CEO Han Dong-hoon's family are the charges of obstruction of business and violation of the Information and Communication Network Act. So CEO Han Dong-hoon is saying,

◆ Shin Yul: It's so hard. Please solve it a little easier.

■ Jang Ye-chan: To put it simply, there is no problem with the contents on the representative side of Han Dong-hoon. It's said that the level is not that high, so I don't think there will be a search warrant due to defamation, but what the accusers pay attention to is that five families appeared every minute, and it seems that one person used several people's accounts. This is also a business obstruction, and at the same time, even if the name of another person is a family member, there is an example of punishment for violating the Information and Communication Network Act in our Supreme Court case.

◆ Synonym: theft of theft title

■ Jang Ye-chan: I understand that the investigation of the police accuser has ended by focusing on that part. In my view, the investigation does not take long, so a search warrant for the power of the people regarding the party bulletin board will be requested within December.

◆ Shin-yul: But there are reports that former Supreme Council member Kim Min-jeon said something about the party's bulletin board, so there are rumors that there are rumors and rumors. What do you think?

◇ Park Sung-min: So I thought it was like a crazy drama. In fact, this is enough to be said at the top of the closed committee, and when I heard former Supreme Council member Kim Min's remarks, I received a lot of text messages asking him to resign as CEO Han Dong-hoon, and I'll give them their number, so they told the party to file a complaint together.

◆ Shin Yul: I'm not telling you to resign,

◇ Park Sung-min: As there were talks about his resignation, so anyway, if you're going to accuse me of all the resignation texts, I'm actually turning a blind eye to it. In a way, I was hoping for the party's response, especially those who are legal leaders Joo Jin-woo, but in fact, representative Han Dong-hoon is right next to me, and doing it in public means bringing the conflict to the surface. It brought the conflict to the surface and, in a way, undermined CEO Han Dong-hoon's certain status and authority. But I wondered if that was what the ruling party leadership would do, but what surprised me a little more was that Han Dong-hoon responded very emotionally to it. Before that, when former Supreme Council member Kim Min spoke, he reacted a little absurdly, and afterwards, he was in front of reporters, saying, "Isn't this a very emotional response to the party leader shaking?" There was also a question of whether representative Han Dong-hoon would respond so emotionally while watching the party bulletin board controversy. From the people's point of view, I think that they should organize this quickly. There are so many things to do. How many days are we talking about with this? I'm very curious about this.

◆ Sin Yul: It's not a few days, it's three weeks. That's right.

■ Jang Ye-chan: I actually referred to the remarks of our respected professor Shin Yul mentioned in other media. Regardless of the parts reflected in the article, it is true that the ruling party is taking this issue further. I agree with you for saying this. However, if this person came, it became impossible to find out the truth or to cover it without revealing whether he did it or not because CEO Han Dong-hoon asked his family. This is because conservative media editorials such as Chosun and Dong-A are asking why Han is not asking, and this is not just a claim made by the pro-Yoon-gye, but now even lawmakers with a light factional color should explain and take responsibility if Han has something to do. So, when this is acknowledged, CEO Han Dong-hoon and his close circle seem to be afraid of the aftermath, but the evaluation is up to the people and party members. Anyway, we have to get out of this controversy and move on to the next topic. The ruling party, however, is not able to reveal the simple facts of whether they are family members or not. Structurally, cases like Hyegyeonggung Kim in the past were not possible to seize and search the headquarters of overseas companies in foreign countries because they left a message on SNS called Twitter. However, since this is a party bulletin board, it is too easy to search and seizure of the people's power, and it is a problem that can be confirmed by simply reading the party list from the people's power, and if you ask your family before that, I think it is essential for Han to find out the truth or express his position at least to move on quickly.

◇ Park Sung-min: So at first, I actually saw that the issue was very simple. Jang Ye-chang also keeps asking questions. That's why his family wrote it or not. But he's trying to shake the leader of the party. Or some kind of political attack. Seeing them suddenly dragging them to some kind of frame fight, I thought that what looked similar was that the aides couldn't properly ask the president about Kim Gun-hee. That's why the president's reverse is Mrs. Kim Gun-hee. However, if you look at representative Han Dong-hoon's response this time, I think the reverse of representative Han Dong-hoon is a problem with the bulletin board of this party. Should I say that CEO Han Dong-hoon's position is a little unclear? So, what the people are asking right now and what the pro-Yoon-gye lawmakers are asking is whether the family wrote it or not, but can't there be one line of answer to this? I didn't use it. I didn't use it. I can just say that I didn't use it, but this one line didn't come out, so the fact that I've been dragging it for weeks now and when I see close lawmakers and close officials talking about it, they took it like, "You shouldn't censor it." You shouldn't censor party bulletin boards. So, if you look at this, I think it's a very black comedy situation that CEO Han Dong-hoon's reverse line became controversial on the party bulletin board.

◆ Shin Yul: I would like to ask you one thing if I should ask you, Senator Jang Ye-chan. This is the home. Let's say that the family really posted it because we don't know. Let's say it's not just one person but all of them. Then, isn't there a legal problem with that?

■ Jang Ye-chan: First of all, the two cases are different. First of all, this usually appears every minute after 11:30 p.m., which is a ridiculous probability, but the father-in-law's spouse and mother's daughter in the U.S. posted this every minute on their phones or PCs. The professor would probably agree that there is no mathematical probability of this. But if you say so, it becomes a matter of being criticized morally and politically. However, it is impossible for these five people to post at the same time every minute mathematically, so one of the family members continued to post in the name whether or not they received the other's family consent. This is now a legal matter.

◆ Sin-ryul: It's a name theft.

■ Jang Ye-chan: Since this is a case of obstruction of business or violation of the Information and Communication Network Act and there is a Supreme Court precedent, the reason why Han cannot admit that he is a family member is not over as soon as he admits it, but if he admits it, it seems that he is now afraid that he will eventually move to the issue of judicial punishment by one person.

◆ Shin-yul: But anyway, people who can call us close friends now argue that there is no reason to disclose the author's identity because it is at the level of political opinion. In addition, the writings in the name of Han Dong-hoon's family are not enough to be operated on an average of two a day. I make this argument. How do you see it?

◇ Park Sung-min: Why are you explaining like this?

■ Jang Ye-chan: The words are too long

◇ Park Sung-min: No, so it's kind of like an answer. What the people are asking is who wrote it, but I analyzed the article. But there were a few slanderous articles, and none of the articles written in the name of CEO Han Dong-hoon's family were problematic. I don't know if you look at this. So, this issue actually seems to be a political issue beyond legal. So, there may be some emotional criticism of representative Han Dong-hoon, and political criticism is being raised in relation to a certain position of political representative Han Dong-hoon. How should I say these parts? I felt like I was being treated legally. According to the level of slander and the classification of slanderous articles, there are several types, and some of them do not need to be investigated. It seems like the prosecution is narrowing and determining the subject of the investigation and going to a mechanism very similar to this method. And I don't understand why people say, "We shouldn't censor it." But on the other hand, I'm going to file a complaint with the target person. Watching them say, "I don't know the essence of the problem right now," and trying to downplay this issue, I think I'm only making noises about catching floating clouds. That's what I'm thinking.

◆ Sin Yul: It's said that it's up one every minute, but who said this? So, if I say it's 2 a day, do I do it every minute?

■ Jang Ye-chan: This is an extension of the period.

◆ Synthesis: This is

■ Jang Ye-chan: By extending your period

◆ Synthesis: Increase it to

■ Jang Ye-chan: It's this kind of watering explanation, but more than 900 articles have been posted that we've checked in two months. 900 posts, not two months of comments, is not a small number. I'm sure they had some days off. He said that the average was achieved by including all of these days off, but as Park Sung-min said, this answer itself is the same answer and it is a bit of a fact that is immediately refuted. So CEO Han Dong-hoon is still like a prosecutor and lawmaker Joo Jin-woo is still like a lawyer. But what the people want now is not the answer of the prosecutor's lawyer, but the party leader and the lawmaker. If your status is then politically responsible for clarifying the answers to the suspicions of the people and the media. I immediately refuted that there was no problem with the content, but I'm a bit hesitant to say it on the show. Among the articles written by representative Han Dong-hoon's family members, is floor leader Choo Kyung-ho, crazy, or resign? Is this an expression of political opinion? You know, the outrageous thing about a fellow politician. Mrs. Kim Gun-hee, clean up the excrement on her own. I won't say any more harsh words.

◆ Sin-ryul: Broadcasting is not appropriate. I'm nervous about that.

■ Jang Ye-chan: But I won't do it anymore. But as our professor pointed out, there are a lot of terms that can't be aired. But Joo Jin-woo unilaterally announced that it was a political opinion and that the level was not high. But what this looks like is, who believes that lawmaker Chung Chung-rae took responsibility for the representative Lee Jae-myung's problem and announced it as no problem? However, I think the fact that Rep. Joo Jin-woo, a close aide and key heavyweight, presents the representative of Han Dong-hoon seems to underestimate the people and party members too much and see them as fools.

◆ Shin-yul: No, but there was a case where the high-ranking officials in this close relationship couldn't even talk about Kim Gun-hee's aunt now to Han. If this happens, it's an emotional

◇ Park Sung-min: So looking at this response, as a third party, I'm a different party now, so I don't want to say anything about any infighting within the ruling party, but this is what I think. Rather, looking at these responses, the responses of representative Han Dong-hoon's aides, and the responses in the same document, if this situation continues to be prolonged and these formal responses come out, I have no choice but to think that Han Dong-hoon wrote it. So it kind of becomes a fait accompli. So, even if a family member of CEO Han Dong-hoon's family or a close aide, who is not his family member, borrows his name and wrote it on behalf of him, if that's the case, then you can just say that it's not true, but it's not true. Kim Gun-hee also posted a lot of comments on the bulletin board of the party, saying, "Didn't CEO Han Dong-hoon curse?" I thought, "It's not an answer to the question." Rather, these responses are a little hard to understand in common sense, and as I said before, I'm tired. When I see it, I think you should've just organized it a little faster. I wonder if you're taking this far.

■ Jang Ye-chan: Mrs. Kim Gun-hee's Facebook post is wrong. It's very inappropriate. However, I know that this person has not been connected to other family members or Mrs. Kim Gun-hee recently or is in this condition,

◆ You're not contacting me, are you?

■ Jang Ye-chan: And most of all, he just posted on his Facebook page with his real name and face revealed. It's inappropriate, but it's different from the nature of the problem of manipulating public opinion by plotting several people. Representative Han also asks what's wrong with swearing at the president. So, it's been a long time since the focus of the problem has been on whether or not the public opinion has been manipulated, not whether it was abusive or slander. It doesn't look good to the public to come into an emotional fight without explaining it properly, and I'm also very sorry that I made this issue public to the media and to the public as the one who made them get on a lot of TV and news. However, suspicion arose and a clear suspicion occurred, and let's just cover it up and move on because it's tiring for a political leader to not reveal his position and take responsibility for it. I don't think that's the right direction of politics. If you answer clearly or honestly, I answered yes, so let's see the people's reaction and let's take some responsibility. If we move on like this once or twice, the suspicion of the party leader and those in power, whether ruling party or opposition party, will be given an indulgence to let's move on because it's noisy if the person puts up with it for about three weeks. So, I'm sorry for the fact that I'm the one who's raising this suspicion, but I don't think this problem will end easily unless the party leader in power answers the facts that can be revealed too simply about the case. Is this going to end because I'm quiet? Now even neutral lawmakers have come forward. Rep. Kim Mi-ae came forward in the last parliamentary session, such as Ahn Cheol Soo and Kim Yong-tae, and not only pro-Yoon-gye but also neutral and centrist lawmakers are calling for the truth, so there seems to be no other way to cover up the issue without truth.

◆ Shin Yul: Then let's reduce the first part of Yeouido Youth Politics. Let's continue talking in part two.