[New Square 10] You waited for me all day."The arrest warrant is too far."

■ Host: Anchor Park Seok-won and Anchor Um Ji-min
■ Starring: Lawyer Park Sung-bae

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2024-12-26 10:06:47



[Anchor]
The Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit waited all day for President Yoon to attend, but eventually failed to investigate. At the same time, he said that the arrest warrant still needs further review. The Constitutional Court, which will take the first step in the impeachment trial tomorrow, is also concerned about the possibility of the trial process being left idle. Let's go over the contents with lawyer Park Sung-bae. Welcome. The deadline for the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit's request for attendance was 10 a.m. yesterday, but didn't the employees wait until late without leaving work? Are these unusual examples?

[Park Sung-bae]
I think it should be seen as an unusual case. In practice, we request attendance by phone once or twice, and if they do not respond, an arrest request is sent. Nevertheless, if a suspect fails to comply with his/her attendance three to four times, including a phone call and an arrest request, he/she usually applies for an arrest warrant, and this issue seems to have enough requirements.

The prosecution first asked the president to appear once, and the prosecution transferred the case against the president to the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit. The case is connected as it is, but the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit later refused to comply with the request for attendance twice. And it seems that the requirements to issue an arrest warrant have been fully met by stating that the impeachment trial comes first rather than the reason for not responding.

From the point of view of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, it is difficult to understand the hesitancy of issuing an arrest warrant, but from the perspective of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, if an arrest warrant is issued, an arrest warrant will have to be requested immediately on the spot. If the request for an arrest warrant is considered, it is interpreted as being somewhat cautious about the application for an arrest warrant itself.

[Anchor]
If you look at the options available to the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit right now, it would be about two things: giving a third notice and issuing an arrest warrant. Which do you think is more likely?

[Park Sung-bae]
In light of the current attitude of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, it is expected that they will request an arrest warrant if they do not comply with the third summons first. However, even at this point, it is possible to request an arrest warrant, especially since all those involved in this case have been arrested without any exceptions, and given the president's current attitude, there is a possibility of destroying related evidence, so it is possible to request and issue an arrest warrant. However, considering other circumstances, the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit seems to be taking a very careful approach.

[Anchor]
The Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit said it would not pass over this year, but there are about five to six days left this year. Is it possible within this?

[Park Sung-bae]
When I made the 3rd recall request, I put the term quite long. This seems to be enough prepared to attend, but if you don't attend and won't pass this year, you'll be notified of the summons within one to two days, and if you don't respond, you're expected to apply for an arrest warrant at the end of the year or early in the year.

[Anchor]
He is not responding to the summons, but he said he attended President Yoon's Christmas service again. How should I look at this part?

[Park Sung-bae]
Even if the president is suspended from his duties due to the impeachment, his status will be maintained. You can use the name as it is, and related security and courtesy are maintained, but you can live in your official residence and use an official car as it is. All salaries are received as they are except for work promotion expenses. As a result, yesterday's attendance at the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit was scheduled, so much attention was paid to it, but I did not attend yet and watched a Christmas service at Hannam-dong official residence. In previous years, I went to church in person to worship for Christmas, but as such, I understand that I watched it at my official residence, and there are reports that I watched it with church pastors, church elders, and saints in attendance.

[Anchor]
President Yoon Suk Yeol will announce his position as early as today, he will reveal his position on social media, these reports have come out, but why are they refusing to attend this time, and what will he say?

[Park Sung-bae]
Regarding the prosecution's first request for attendance on the 15th, it pleaded that a defense team was not formed, and on the 18th, it was difficult to respond to the attendance due to duplicate investigations. And on the 25th, he showed an attitude that he would not immediately respond to the investigation because the impeachment trial came before the investigation. I don't know what position he will take this time, but I think President Yoon Suk Yeol is waiting for the prosecution of former Minister Kim Yong-hyun. As the first arrest period has been extended, former Minister Kim Yong-hyun's arrest period has expired on the 28th, and he has to be arrested and prosecuted following the issuance of a warrant. If you are arrested and charged, the indictment will be fully disclosed, and from then on, former Minister Kim Yong-hyun's lawyer will be able to read all the investigation records.

At least President Yoon and former Minister Kim Yong-hyun are in a position to communicate enough. Of course, even if former Minister Kim Yong-hyun is not able to communicate directly because he is under arrest, he can communicate through a lawyer. Therefore, it seems that the investigation agency is prepared to respond to the investigation after determining the situation through the investigation records and on what grounds it was committed to rebellion and abuse of authority. At least, he is able to communicate sufficiently with former Minister Kim Yong-hyun, and depending on the situation, he seems to be ready to contact those involved to secure related statements or to conduct some conspiracy related to those statements and then respond to the investigation.

[Anchor]
So, you have observed how much former Minister Kim Yong-hyun talked through the prosecution's investigation and what position President Yoon will make with the guide, but former Minister Kim Yong-hyun said he will hold a press conference at 10:30 a.m. today. From Minister Kim Yong-hyun's side. What kind of story will it be?

[Park Sung-bae]
In fact, former Minister Kim Yong-hyun said on the 10th, ahead of the actual examination of the arrest warrant, that I am responsible for all the responsibilities. Of course, I acknowledged and denied some facts.Ma has made an announcement to the effect of acknowledging the allegation itself. However, since the president's statement to the public on the 12th, he has changed his attitude to deny some facts or has not responded to any investigations by the police and the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit. In addition, the prosecution's investigation is exercising its right to refuse to make statements, and it is likely to refute that there are many mistakes in the facts at the same time as making a basic argument to the effect that the related charges are not recognized.

Both the National Assembly and the NEC are constitutional institutions if attempts to arrest lawmakers or take control of the NEC server themselves are found to be true. As the fact that the constitutional agency is controlled by violence itself is not open to dispute, it is expected to further protest that some of the facts that emerged during the basic investigation process are different.

[Anchor]
The first hearing preparation period will begin at the Constitutional Court tomorrow, but President Yoon Suk Yeol's lawyers have not been formed yet, right?

[Park Sung-bae]
That's right. No lawyers have been formed yet, and some lawyers are protesting President Yoon Suk Yeol's position.Ma is a lawyer who has not been formally appointed. It cannot be referred to as a formal lawyer because it has not submitted an appointment of an attorney to the investigative agency and has not submitted an appointment of an attorney to the Constitutional Court. The Constitutional Court will probably proceed with the preparation date for the defense on the 27th tomorrow, but if not only President Yoon but also his lawyer are not present tomorrow, I expect that the preparation date for the defense will be rescheduled for one or two times.

In fact, the Constitutional Court applies the Civil Procedure Act as far as the procedure is concerned, but the Criminal Procedure Act also applies to the impeachment trial. According to the Criminal Procedure Act, in principle, if a party does not appear in the trial preparation process, it is terminated, but if there is a considerable reason to avoid continuing preparation, there is a provision that the trial preparation process can be continued. In fact, this part can be applied quite heavily to President Yoon, the party involved. The reason for this is that according to the Criminal Procedure Act, the court may not accept it if it does not notify in advance that it will apply for any evidence in the process of stating the future proof plan in the trial preparation process after the trial preparation process. In this case, it is necessary to clarify the circumstances that the lawsuit is not significantly delayed or that the application for evidence has not been made in advance due to unavoidable reasons, but the Constitutional Court may not accept this argument in the main trial. In other words, the uncooperative attitude to the constitutional trial will ultimately work against President Yoon in the whole case, not asking for more due dates because it takes time for the lawyers to figure out the case.

[Anchor]
So, there is an uncooperative situation on one side, but isn't the Constitutional Court going according to the Constitutional Court's timetable?
But when one side does not cooperate like this, can we go according to the Constitutional Court's timetable?

[Park Sung-bae]
Once one side shows an uncooperative attitude, the progress of the beginning of the case will inevitably be slow. There is a possibility that the hearing preparation date will be set one or two more times than expected, and the first or second dates will remain idle even after entering the trial preparation process, that is, the main trial process of the impeachment trial. However, there is no possibility of much delay in the case as a whole. The scary part of the Constitutional Court's judgment is that the Constitutional Court is a single-trial system. There is no procedure to object to President Yoon's protest against the proceedings, even though he has ruled out the parties too much and proceeded quickly. Even though the Constitutional Court gave us enough opportunities, it was uncooperative, so we decided to go according to our timetable, and that's it.

[Anchor]
So there's no way to hold back before the referee comes out before that?

[Park Sung-bae]
Among the constitutional trials, the impeachment trial is based on oral argument. In principle, a constitutional trial is based on a written trial.E, similar to criminal proceedings, presupposes oral arguments, and since it is oral arguments, it is a principle that the parties attend. If you do not attend, you will set a date on the next day and if the party does not attend on that date, you will proceed with the attendance of your lawyer alone.

The parties were not present during the impeachment trial of former President Roh Moo Hyun or former President Park Geun Hye. Only lawyers have attended the trial, but in fact, from the Constitutional Court's point of view, if the process is delayed, the delay in the process at the beginning of the case is a part of the Constitutional Court. The National Assembly, the prosecution agency, submitted various data, but if the president of Yoon Suk Yeol, the prosecutor, does not submit the data, it may be difficult to resolve the initial issues. However, if the process continues on his own timetable by turning his uncooperative attitude to disadvantage of the person concerned, it will take 46 days and 84 days, respectively, for the impeachment trial of former President Roh Moo Hyun or former President Park Geun Hye. There is a high possibility that a conclusion can be reached in the interim.

[Anchor]
Then, when should we look at the deadline that President Yoon must come out?

[Park Sung-bae]
At least a lawyer must be present at the time when the overall trial process and the main trial are conducted beyond the trial preparation process. This is not a matter of compulsory attendance, but if President Yoon does not appoint an attorney and does not present an attorney even at the original trial at that time, the disadvantage will be entirely to President Yoon.
Probably, the Constitutional Court will examine witnesses, receive documents and evidence during the impeachment process, and if necessary, not only will the life judge go through the verification and appraisal process, but also the investigation records will be sent. In other words, the investigative theory is data prepared from the perspective of the investigative agency. President Yoon expects to take a full-scale response from the first and second dates of the main trial, as there will be no choice but to judge based on this data alone.

[Anchor]
President Yoon Suk Yeol's side said that President Yoon may appear in the Constitutional Court's judgment. If it's revealed, when will it be?

[Park Sung-bae]
It is expected that President Yoon will directly appear at the trial court on the third and fourth dates after the lawyer first identifies the relevant records and sets up a basic position in the trial on the merits. However, it is important to look back on whether it will be advantageous for President Yoon to appear in the impeachment proceedings. According to the statement to the public, some troops were not subject to judicial review as an act of governance, but they immediately lifted it when requested to lift the National Assembly, and if the defense is to be made at the court, it is highly likely to have a negative impression if the claim is repeated in front of the Constitutional Court judge.

Wouldn't it be possible to go further to such a statement and stand at the court to argue the facts in full or to faithfully state legal grounds that would not constitute a civil war? If you make a statement at the level of a public statement, it is better not to be judged.

[Anchor]
So, from President Yoon's point of view, shouldn't we provide evidence that it is not a civil war? Is there anything that can be called evidence? In the case of proclamations and minutes of the Cabinet meeting, it is heavy to believe that it will work unfavorably.

[Park Sung-bae]
In fact, in this case, the facts should be confirmed first. Various remarks are pouring out that they tried to arrest lawmakers under the direction of the president. The commander of the Special Forces, the commander of the first deputy chief of the National Intelligence Service, and the chief of the National Police Agency are making the same remarks, and inside the counterintelligence agency, a notebook was found that included the list of targets to be arrested, saying it was ordered by former Defense Minister Kim Yong-hyun. In this situation, it is quite difficult to overturn the facts entirely.

Nevertheless, it is necessary to reveal that there are many circumstances that contradict their claims in some facts, such as not acting according to their instructions, or that a third party, such as former Defense Minister Kim Yong-hyun or former intelligence commander Roh Sang-won, intervened to lead the overall implementation process.
However, as President Yoon has not actively responded to the impeachment trial or the investigation stage so far, various facts reinterpreted from the perspective of the investigative agency are already being revealed. If this factual relationship remains the same, there seems to be no room for contention in the crime of rebellion.

[Anchor]
In response to President Yoon Suk Yeol's argument, the Supreme Court has now said that the exclusion of judicial review should be extremely cautious, with the Supreme Court ruling in 1997 and 2001. What did you talk about specifically?

[Park Sung-bae]
There is already a court ruling that the right to dispatch troops to Iraq or pardon is an act of governance and is not subject to judicial review. 12. When the Supreme Court ruled on the 12th and May 18th cases, it was judged that even a successful coup was subject to judicial review. Korea has based national sovereignty and liberal democracy on the basis of the rule of law as a reason for enacting the Constitution, and in the meantime, some forces have not fundamentally changed the nation's legal order due to a coup, and it has been judged that the act of taking power by violence is not tolerated under any circumstances and is subject to judicial review.

In particular, the Supreme Court's all-in-one decision at the time was that the court did not have the authority to judge the request, but if the declaration of the emergency rule itself was made for the purpose of disrupting the national constitution, it could be fully examined to convict the criminal act and the rebellion. Currently, the act of rebellion itself beyond the party and wealth itself of the emergency martial law is a problem, so it is expected to be sufficient for the court's judicial review.

[Anchor]
There will be a press conference from former Minister Kim Yong-hyun in a little while, but certain media companies have been excluded from the press conference. What kind of intent should these actions be considered?

[Park Sung-bae]
I made a statement earlier to exclude MBC and JTBC. I think I heard a situation to the effect that my remarks are not fully reported. Perhaps some media companies, such as MBC and JTBC, made such an announcement as a way to inform that they are excessively interpreting or distorting their cases, and furthermore, questions may come in during the press conference. At least some media companies seem to have been excluded with the intention of blocking the question itself.

[Anchor]
Can the attitude of excluding certain media outlets or not taking questions affect future trials and trials?

[Park Sung-bae]
I don't think it's going to have a big impact on the referee itself. Of course, some media companies can rule it out on the grounds that it doesn't match them. However, in the case of former Defense Minister Kim Yong-hyun, some facts have been recognized for his actions, and Yeo In-hyeong, former intelligence commander, and Roh Sang-won, former intelligence commander, have already been arrested. In fact, the police, the prosecution, and the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit competed excessively for investigation over this case, causing confusion over the subject of the investigation.Ma, the person who applied for an arrest warrant in any investigative agency, all of whom were issued arrest warrants without any exception. In this situation, for example, the Seoul Central District Court has four judges in charge of issuing arrest warrants in each state, but three weeks have already passed.

The fact that everyone has been issued an arrest warrant in the meantime means that no matter what judge sees, it has come to the judgment that the criminal charge of rebellion has been made to some extent. Regardless of former Defense Minister Kim Yong-hyun's current attitude, it seems to be a stage where sufficient facts or evidence collection has been completed to some extent.

[Anchor]
It is said that a lot of wreaths of supporters have also arrived in front of the Eastern Detention Center, where former Minister Kim has been arrested. As you can see, there are a lot of wreaths lined up, and if you look at the message, it is Yi Sun-shin of the time. There's also a story about the hero of the rescue. But should former Minister Kim Yong-hyun's press conference at such a time be considered to be aimed at gathering such supporters?

[Park Sung-bae]
Former Minister Kim Yong-hyun's press conference seems to have two main meanings. I can't communicate directly with the president because I'm currently in custody. Former Minister Kim Yong-hyun's press conference has a dimension of speaking to the president. I am sending a message to the president ahead of the investigation and impeachment trial that I will take this position. Another thing is that there are several figures surrounding former Minister Kim Yong-hyun.

There are various figures such as military officials, police, and intelligence officers who have already been arrested or are currently under investigation, and they should be viewed as spreading the message to them as well. I'm in this position, so please understand my position. Furthermore, since I hold this position, even if there is a history of statements, it can be interpreted as asking me to reverse the statement once again. In other words, it seems that there is an intention to convey a fairly clear message to President Yoon and various people under investigation beyond remarks made to supporters.

[Anchor]
As you pointed out earlier, if former Minister Kim Yong-hyun is arrested before the 28th because the arrest period expires and the trial proceeds, related charges will be leaked, which could affect the presidential trial in Yoon Suk Yeol. Is there any countermeasure for this?

[Park Sung-bae]
Actually, there is no specific countermeasure. After the indictment, not only will the indictment be released, but the defendant's attorney can also view and disclose the entire investigation record that has not been seen. In the process, it is possible to go beyond former Minister Kim Yong-hyun's position and disclose the statements of those involved, that is, the statements of the reference persons, on what grounds former Minister Kim Yong-hyun is accused of rebellion and abuse of authority. In other words, it is highly likely that President Yoon will understand what facts the investigative agency has identified and what laws establish the crime of rebellion. This situation cannot be prevented unless both parties are thoroughly separated.

However, as the case itself has progressed quite rapidly and the arrest period has expired, the prosecution is forced to arrest it. If there is any data that should not be handed over to President Yoon, it is highly likely to proceed with an investigation or trial without leaving some information and data out of the list of evidence against former Minister Kim Yong-hyun. And when President Yoon reaches the stage of investigation and prosecution in earnest, there is a possibility that he will change the indictment to change some of the indictments or submit evidence belatedly on the grounds that it is additional evidence.

[Anchor]
In addition, the police summoned again a day after the appointment of the second armored brigade commander of the 93rd anniversary, and did you have a relationship with Kim Yong-hyun, the key man, and what role he played in martial law?

[Park Sung-bae]
That's right. When emergency martial law is declared, a joint investigation team centered on counterintelligence agents will be established. As a result, various investigations will be continued on the violation of the decree, which is very important in relation to the suspicion that the second investigation team centered on former intelligence commander Roh Sang-won was trying to set up. The second investigation team is suspected of attempting to secure a NEC server to investigate allegations of fraudulent elections, which is quite close to the root cause of declaring emergency martial law.

Wasn't the reason for declaring emergency martial law a means to investigate allegations of fraudulent elections beyond the legitimate requirements for declaring emergency martial law? In fact, as a non-elected organization, it is in contact with the part of whether it was trying to set up a second investigation team centered on the general public. Not only should the investigation team appoint the second armored brigade commander of the Gu Sam-hoe and Bang Jung-hwan, the head of the Ministry of National Defense's policy planning team, as the head of the investigation team, but in the case of the second armored brigade commander of the Gu Sam-hoe, he was waiting at the Pangyo intelligence office when the emergency martial law was declared. Depending on the situation, the suspicion of mobilizing the tank unit should be fully investigated.

[Anchor]
The investigation into former Minister Kim Yong-hyun is also proceeding rapidly, so what else can be revealed before the prosecution of former Minister Kim?

[Park Sung-bae]
Ahead of the prosecution of former Minister Kim, it is necessary to investigate the overall process of arresting lawmakers, securing the NEC's server and investigating allegations of fraudulent elections, that is, conducting emergency martial law, and it is true that the crime of rebellion is likely to be established only by the circumstances revealed so far and attempts to arrest lawmakers. If we need to continue further investigation at the current stage, of course, we have to prosecute soon, so we can't call him as a suspect and investigate any more. The part that needs to be reinforced through the investigation of the relevant reference person should be to secure the NEC server for the investigation of the election fraud or what kind of investigation they tried to conduct based on the basis of the investigation of the election fraud, but there are several suspects who have already been arrested in addition to the investigation of the reference person.

Among these suspects, there was also a situation in which they tried to secure the NEC server beyond simply arresting lawmakers and to exert pressure on the NEC employees. Perhaps the related investigation records should be added as evidence records during the future trial of former Minister Kim Yong-hyun, but the related records have not only been investigated by the prosecution, but also by the police and the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit. Since there are probably a lot of related records, it seems that we will have to take steps to receive related data from the police and the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit and submit it as additional evidence.

[Anchor]
Former Minister Kim Yong-hyun's press conference, scheduled for 10:30 p.m., will connect to the site and listen to former Minister Kim Yong-hyun's story when a press conference is held at the site. Let's talk a little more about the martial law investigation. As mentioned earlier, former intelligence commander Roh Sang-won tried to organize a separate party. That's the second stage of the investigation. But as you said, there is the commander of the Gusamhoe Armored Brigade and Brigadier General Bang Jung-hwan. Civilians organize a separate party based on active-duty soldiers. I think this will be a very legal debate, too. What do you think?

[Park Sung-bae]
Due to its nature, emergency martial law has considerably more human evidence than physical evidence. As for that personal evidence, depending on the situation, there's a lot of room for credibility to be questioned. However, in any case, it can be said that it is rare that there is no physical evidence at all. A notebook has already been released in connection with the arrest of lawmakers, and a notebook related to the plan to declare emergency martial law has also been released in former commander Roh's house. In addition, if the general public suddenly volunteers beyond the normal command system and specific testimony about the general public is supported, the overall related facts are likely to be accepted as true. If there is a situation in which someone who is unexpected, rather than a procedure that anyone can expect, and there is a situation in which someone was trying to build another secret organization around that person, and human evidence exists even if it is not concrete physical evidence to support this situation, it is quite likely to be judged true because such a statement cannot be made unless it is true.

[Anchor]
And former intelligence commander Moon Sang-ho and the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit will be transferred to the military prosecution as early as today, but the investigation situation related to former commander Moon Sang-ho was quite complicated. The police made an emergency arrest.

[Anchor]
You heard the press conference of former Minister Kim Yong-hyun. The key point is that emergency martial law is to raise alarm, and it cannot be a civil war. It says
. Let's take a legal look at former Minister Kim Yong-hyun's position again today. I've talked about many things, but I said it can't be a civil war. How did you hear this story?

[Park Sung-bae]
It seems to be in large part consistent with the president's statement to the public. First of all, there was a need to raise the alarm about the parliamentary defeat, investigate allegations of fraudulent elections, and prevent pro-North Korean activists from rattling. It is argued that the declaration of emergency martial law was inevitable in the process of over-indulgence of impeachment and budget cuts. However, even if you hear all of these arguments, emergency martial law can be issued in a state of war, incident or equivalent national emergency, and the fundamental question arises from whether it is a state of war, incident or equivalent national emergency. When discussing whether emergency martial law is a civil war or not, there is also intimidation in addition to violence. It contains a decree that prohibits parliamentary activities under the decree and that failure to comply can lead to arrest without a warrant and impose criminal punishment.

To simply dismiss it as a warning, there is a lot of room for threatening to evaluate emergency martial law as a civil war. It seems that the explanation for this has not been made yet. In addition, I wanted to implement the emergency martial law properly because it was a simple warning emergency martial law.I think we need to argue whether those involved, especially those who have been put into practice, are merely failed emergency martial law by passively dealing with it. Rather, given the current progress of the investigation by the investigative agency, it seems highly likely that it should be judged as a failed emergency martial law.

[Anchor]
Even crimes are punished separately for attempted crimes. In this case, considering that martial law has now failed, even though the lifting of martial law was legal, wasn't the process of declaring martial law broadcasted to all citizens as it was? How will the punishment be in this area?

[Park Sung-bae]
Of course, there are rules for punishment of attempted criminals for rebellion, and furthermore, there are rules for punishing preliminary conspiracy propaganda. However, this issue does not constitute an attempt. The crime of rebellion refers to the act of exercising violence for the purpose of disrupting the national constitution, and here, violence refers to the case of exercising violence or intimidation in the broadest range. In fact, there is a lot of room for evaluating that violent events already existed in the act of barring lawmakers from entering the National Assembly, attempting to arrest them, even if they did not arrest them directly. In this case, if the crime of rebellion is already established, it should be treated as a standard for rebellion, not as an attempted or preliminary conspiracy.

[Anchor]
According to former Minister Kim Yong-hyun, martial law was declared at 11 p.m., and if this was effectively aimed at martial law, it would have been declared at dawn. That's why I said on the spot that I only took minimal measures and legally lifted them. When I see this story, I think it contradicts the stories of the military and the police that have appeared in the investigation so far.

[Park Sung-bae]
There seems to be a different part. After President Yoon's public statement, former Minister Kim Yong-hyun's position was like this. Some are already under arrest, and others are under investigation. Those involved should also recall their memories. Was our position to enforce the emergency martial law, otherwise we were willing to lift it at any time if there was a request to lift the National Assembly, and we did not bring up the request to recall and restate because it could be nothing more than a warning. It's just that it seems to be making a request.

[Anchor]
If you look at the positions announced by former Minister Kim Yong-hyun and the positions announced by President Yoon Suk Yeol, it is consistent. Is it a strategy to be judged by the court as it is?

[Park Sung-bae]
It seems to prove that there is no other room for defense anymore. There is a fundamental limit to overturning the facts, and it is seen as an intention to respond to future investigations and impeachment trials while maintaining this position, and when former Minister Kim Yong-hyun acknowledged some facts when he gave up the warrant examination and expressed his position that all responsibility should come back to him, he likely thought it was over when he was arrested. However, as President Yoon Suk Yeol announced his statement to the public on the 12th, there is a possibility that President Yoon will come back from his suspension under the current six-member constitutional court system.

It seems that everything is not over yet, and there is a possibility of recovery, so I think I have changed my attitude to the position that I need to fight more. As a result, even if he fails to provide a more logical basis, even if he is convicted in the future, some officials seem to have pleaded to lay the groundwork for President Yoon's return by reversing his statement.

[Anchor]
I see. I'll stop listening to it. So far, I've been with lawyer Park Sung-bae. Thank you.