President Yoon continues to refuse to comply with the investigation into the Corruption Investigations Unit...Trying to force him in.

■ Host: anchor Yoo Da-won, anchor Kim Myung-geun, anchor
■ Starring: Baek Jong-gyu, social affairs reporter, lawyer Seo Jeong-bin,

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[Anchor]
Let's take a closer look at the pending issues related to the investigation of President Yoon, reporter Baek Jong-kyu of the Ministry of Social Affairs, and lawyer Seo Jeong-bin. Welcome, two of you. Earlier, I connected a reporter from our Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit and told him that the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit is trying to recruit President Yoon, and that they have been in talks for more than four hours. First of all, President Yoon continues to disobey the investigation, right?

[Reporter]
That's right. It was on the 15th that the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit executed an arrest warrant. But on that day, I was investigated. Since then, I have not responded to the investigation. The Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit keeps coming to the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit building and telling me to be investigated, but on the first day, I kept hearing health reasons. And after that, there is nothing more to say to the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, and for this reason, we are continuing to refuse the investigation. An arrest warrant has been executed. Since it was carried out yesterday, the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit told me to be investigated today, but I'm continuing to refuse. As a result, the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit is attempting to force President Yoon Suk Yeol to seek a compulsory arrest because he continues to refuse to comply with the request for attendance. Six people, including prosecutors and investigators, are reportedly continuing to demand that they visit the Seoul Detention Center for questioning. However, so far, there has been no news that it is being investigated. First of all, it is confirmed that President Yoon continues to refuse to comply with the investigation. However, the problem is that there is no means to force President Yoon's investigation at a time when President Yoon Suk Yeol continues to refuse to comply with the investigation of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit and exercise his right to refuse to make statements. If Yoon Suk Yeol's forced conviction is executed, it will be the first time in history that the president will be forced to convict.

[Anchor]
As you said, as President Yoon continues to refuse to comply with the investigation, the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit is attempting to forcibly recruit him. How do you think the related process will proceed in the future?

[Jeongbin Seo]
In fact, there is no clear regulation on whether the arrested suspect can be forced into an inch while refusing to attend with an arrest warrant already issued as in this situation. So, there is no regulation that how the procedure should proceed. I now understand that acknowledging this is possible through the precedents in 2013 or some of those precedents. Therefore, it would be a little difficult to predict that it will flow according to any clear procedure. However, if you expect a little, of course, the arrest warrant remains in effect similar to the arrest, so it seems that some physical force and coercion can be exercised if necessary. However, since the status itself is the president and there are no standards set for the degree of such physical force, I think these parts could become problems again in the future. Therefore, the fact that the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit is attempting to forcefully recruit people by force is, in the end, repeating the effect of such a warrant and the process of persuading President Yoon through it. I wonder if it's proceeding in this way by persuading them to attend the investigation together because they can do inches by warrant.

[Anchor]
Are you saying that there are no legal provisions related to the procedure and that it can be measured only by precedents?

[Jeongbin Seo]
That's right. The precedent does not specify any procedures, but it is possible to bring a suspect arrested by an arrest warrant to the investigation room. And if, for example, the right to refuse to state is notified during the interrogation of the suspect, this is a legitimate investigation. It does not clearly state how much physical force should be exercised and what points should be carried out in the process of measuring.

[Anchor]
As you said, in fact, President Yoon Suk Yeol is an incumbent president and there are security issues, so it is not easy to recruit people like ordinary suspects. Wouldn't there be a number of variables?

[Reporter]
That's right. First of all, the security service vehicles are arriving at the airlift. A security check has been conducted. This is to check the hazard facilities in advance due to security issues. Once there is a possibility that the president, who is subject to security, will move according to such a manual that the security agency must go to the location in advance to check for security and check if there are any harmful facilities. That's why it's been confirmed that the security service vehicles went in advance. If the president refuses even a forced recruitment, it is very burdensome to use physical force to move him to the investigation office of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit. For this reason, the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit conducts an investigation in a detention center. Visiting survey plans are also open to possibilities. As the incumbent president has been arrested for the first time in constitutional history and the person is stubbornly refusing to attend, he is confirming the realistic content that he does not need to be entangled in the form of an investigation. In the case of former presidents who were arrested in the past, most detention centers conducted door-to-door investigations due to security issues. Former President Park Geun Hye was questioned in prison five days after his imprisonment. And in the case of former President Lee Myung Bak, he tried to investigate in prison, but it didn't happen. So I refused the interview itself. Prosecutors even handed over the previous president to trial without investigating him. And in the case of former Presidents Chun Doo-hwan and Roh Tae-woo in the past, they were investigated by prosecutors at the place where they were imprisoned.

[Anchor]
We haven't received any news yet.Ma said there were scenes where the security service had arrived at the Senior Civil Servant Correction Office earlier, and the head of the correction department did not receive a report on whether the president was forced to recruit the president, but what if the security service prevented the forced recruitment like at the time of the execution of the arrest warrant?

[Jeongbin Seo]
In fact, if I predict this a little bit, I think it will be a very ambiguous situation. Because, as I said, in this situation, there is no legal stipulation on the part of forced inches through an arrest warrant, but the precedent allows it for now. It's about this much. Therefore, if the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit refuses to attend, it will be quite difficult for the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit to exercise strong physical force against President Yoon. If physical force is exercised at a certain level or higher, the security agency can judge it as an unfair harm to the incumbent president and prevent it. Then, there are no clear procedural regulations or grounds for this, so in fact, if we review it, the charge of obstructing the execution of public affairs may be problematic, but depending on the details, it may be possible for the security agency to protect it. Therefore, I expect that a little ambiguous situation will occur depending on the situation.

[Anchor]
In fact, the police are also considering additional charges of inciting President Yoon to interfere with his arrest. There was also a report by YTN, what is this about?

[Reporter]
For now, the police have booked President Yoon Suk Yeol on charges of obstructing the execution of special public affairs. This is because the Cho Kuk Innovation Party filed a complaint on the 3rd. On the 3rd and 15th, it was judged that there was an order from President Yoon Suk Yeol, who was at the peak of the execution of the arrest warrant for President Yoon Suk Yeol. Opposition parties even claimed that President Yoon told security officials to block him unconditionally by carrying a knife, even if he could not use a gun, ahead of the execution of the second arrest warrant. However, President Yoon refuted the claim as false. Police are also known to have found circumstantial evidence that President Yoon was deeply involved in the process of obstructing the arrest after investigating officials from the Security Service. President Yoon had a luncheon with the head of the security department ahead of the second warrant execution. At that time, the statement came out that President Yoon ordered to consider using firearms. However, the police also seem to have secured a statement that Kim Sung-hoon, the deputy head of the security service, said he understood. The police believe that there was a specific order from President Yoon in the background of Deputy Chief Kim, who was the second-in-command of the security service, taking the lead in this role, beating the chief of the department. Based on these statements and circumstantial evidence, the special police team is considering charging President Yoon Suk Yeol as a teacher of obstructing the execution of special public affairs. As mentioned earlier, President Yoon Suk Yeol has been booked on charges of obstructing the execution of special public affairs, but apart from this, the police have detected the teacher's charges and launched an investigation. It is expected that the investigation into President Yoon Suk Yeol will begin in earnest after re-securing Kim Sung-hoon, deputy head of the security service, and hard-line leadership recruits, who were released after the prosecution rejected the arrest warrant.

[Anchor]
Then, what do you think about the possibility of an arrest obstruction teacher being applied to President Yoon?

[Jeongbin Seo]
So, in the end, this is a question of whether or not a teacher who obstructs the execution of special public affairs will be established. Of course, the facts of this part should be confirmed, and other employees and security officials should first see if they are guilty of obstructing special public affairs. So, if the investigation was conducted on the headquarters of the Security Service or the employees who interfered with the execution at the time, there was an order that President Yoon tried to prevent the execution of his warrant through the command, and if these facts are confirmed, a teacher's crime can be established.

[Anchor]
You're saying that we have to check the facts first, right?

[Jeongbin Seo]
That's right. However, the problem is that the president's privilege to remove fluoride can be a problem. Therefore, it may be considered possible to investigate because it is not a civil war or foreign exchange crime, but it is difficult to prosecute afterwards.

[Anchor]
The Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit extended the deadline for President Yoon's arrest to the court and said that if it is approved, it will be increased until February 7th. This is because we have to exclude the time it took for an arrest investigation, right?

[Reporter]
That's right. After the arrest warrant is issued, the investigation can be conducted for 10 days and extended for 10 days from the time of arrest. However, President Yoon Suk Yeol was arrested on the 15th. And an arrest warrant was issued yesterday. The first arrest period is expected to be around the 28th. If you apply for an extension, the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit said it is expected to increase until February 7. The reason is that the arrest investigation at the Seoul Central District Court and the period of sending the data of the suspect interrogation at the Seoul Western District Court to the court and receiving the data back should be excluded from the arrest period. The Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit says that the arrest period for the president of Yoon Suk Yeol has been extended from a maximum of 20 days to four more days. He also said that the exact arrest deadline is a matter of consultation with the prosecution. As mentioned earlier, there is a possibility that the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit will hand over the case to the prosecution without meeting the 10 days that it was supposed to use in the maximum of 20 days. Because President Yoon Suk Yeol is not responding to the investigation of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, it may take more time to continue the investigation. Therefore, measures such as quickly handing it over to the prosecution and supplementing the investigation by further investigating the prosecution are also being discussed. However, the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit says that it is not something to say at this stage.

[Anchor]
President Yoon is likely to request a binding appeal as he has requested an arrest suit, and these opinions dominate, so I will ask you when you think you will proceed with a binding appeal, and if you do, when you will.

[Jeongbin Seo]
First of all, looking at the situations so far, it seems that there is a very high possibility of claiming a binding appeal. First of all, we have carried out all legally possible procedures, so I think we will try to watch the results by requesting a binding appeal in the current situation. Of course, it is quite difficult to predict that point. However, it's my personal opinion that a request for a binding appeal at a time when the warrant has just been issued will not actually produce any results that can be expected. I think they're expecting it. If so, rather than proceeding with this process quickly, wouldn't the impeachment trial process be considered a little bit? In the future, witness examination of former Defense Minister Kim Yong-hyun will be conducted in the impeachment trial. If there are more favorable testimonies against President Yoon, or favorable testimonies or evidence in subsequent proceedings, why not consider seeking a binding appeal in that situation? If so, I think we can make a claim at least when those procedures are in progress.

[Anchor]
It's hard to guess when you can claim, but when can you claim?

[Jeongbin Seo]
Of course, it is possible at any time until the confinement period expires. Therefore, we believe that the arrest deadline of February 7th, which is expected now, is the deadline, and if it is before that, you can make a claim at any time.

[Anchor]
So you're saying that what the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit asked the court for is until February 7th if it's approved, right?

[Jeongbin Seo]
That's right. Assuming that it has been extended as much as possible, you can make a claim at any time before February 7th.

[Anchor]
As you said, you said it would be difficult to get the results you expected. Then, if I take some time to prepare, can I get the expected result if I claim a binding appeal later?

[Jeongbin Seo]
This has to look at the situation. If I think about it on the side of President Yoon's representative, compared to this point, there is no change in the situation at all since it has been issued. If so, there is no reason to judge that the warrant already issued is inappropriate. However, if there is some favorable evidence during the impeachment trial, and statements are made, there is something changed with it, or there are some things that have not been substantially proven now in relation to the allegations, so I personally expect that a suitability request can be made based on the difference between the time the arrest warrant was issued and that time.

[Anchor]
And the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit took measures to prevent President Yoon Suk Yeol from having access to anyone other than his lawyer. Because I can meet the person concerned and destroy the evidence, should I look at it like this?

[Reporter]
As the court issued an arrest warrant, the reason was that there was a fear of destroying evidence. That's why yesterday, the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit banned the meeting of lawyers for the President of Yoon Suk Yeol. And I sent the prohibition decision to the Seoul Detention Center. The reason is that there is a fear of destroying evidence, so it is a measure to block it. First of all, it is explained that this ban on interviews will take effect as soon as it is notified to the investigative agency. Therefore, it means that except for the lawyer, the family, including the first lady, Kim Gun-hee, and the outside people cannot meet with the president of Yoon Suk Yeol. The ban on interviews is expected to apply before prosecution, that is, until it is handed over to trial. As mentioned earlier, the measures taken by the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit are interpreted as having in mind the review of the arrest suitability, which is likely to be raised by the President of Yoon Suk Yeol. This is because the key reason for deciding whether to release or not is the fear of destroying evidence. President Yoon Suk Yeol has been dissatisfied with the investigation process by almost all legal means so far, so it is expected that he will seek an arrest suit again this time. Even if a request for an arresting trial is made, it is impossible to attempt to release it if it does not dispel concerns about the destruction of evidence. Once it is rejected by an arrest suit, we will find another way to release it, but then we have only bail. Therefore, it is expected to be judged by the court by requesting an arrest suit again this time, but as the lawyer said earlier, it is a little difficult to predict that time.

[Anchor]
On the other hand, President Yoon protested, saying that it was not for the purpose of the investigation, but merely an exasperation with the president. Can it be seen as a normal measure for suspects who are concerned about destroying evidence?

[Jeongbin Seo]
In fact, there are not many cases like this, but these cases are often limited to interviews or caregiving other than outside lawyers when there are accomplices and those accomplices commit fairly organized crimes. In the case of President Yoon, first of all, from the perspective of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, he can fully give instructions or influence to those involved as the head of such an administration, which is at the top of the government organization. Therefore, it is possible to reverse or contaminate the statements of those involved so far, and it may affect the statements of those involved in the future. So I think I saw it like this because there is a fear of destroying evidence. In fact, the prosecution has already taken the same action against former Minister Kim Yong-hyun once before. Therefore, there is a procedure for objection to this and a quasi-appeal, but the court dismissed it when former Minister Kim filed a quasi-appeal, judging that it was a legitimate procedure or a legitimate investigation.

[Anchor]
If such restrictions on interviews are imposed, can President Yoon raise an objection?

[Jeongbin Seo]
The quasi-appeal procedure I just mentioned is a legally established objection procedure.

[Anchor]
In the midst of this, news has been reported that the prosecution has requested an early transfer to the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, but why is the possibility of an early transfer being raised?

[Jeongbin Seo]
First of all, it seems that the most important factor is that President Yoon's veto of such statements will continue in the future. Of course, more objective evidence collection can be added, and on the other hand, it will be necessary to reorganize existing evidence and review the law for prosecution, but in fact, if there is no such interrogation of President Yoon, the actual time required can be significantly shortened. In such a situation, I think it would be better to hand over the case to the prosecution and review the records of the case once again to secure more time to add these things, such as legal reviews or investigations of evidence to be supplemented, rather than spending time continuing to demand President Yoon's attendance. So, in the end, if it is determined that the actual investigation does not need to proceed at this stage, it may eventually turn over the case to the prosecution a little early.

[Anchor]
So, do you think the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit will transfer if the investigation is conducted as requested by the prosecution?

[Jeongbin Seo]
If there is some consultation, and if the prosecution plans a certain investigation for the rest of the year and is consulted with the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, there is a good possibility that it will be transferred sooner than expected.

[Anchor]
But in fact, President Yoon refused to comply with the investigation into the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit, and then when he transferred to the prosecution, the question remains as to whether he can make a meaningful statement. What do you think?

[Jeongbin Seo]
Of course, since it is a so-called home, you can expect that your attitude will change a little by judging that you can express your own defense a little more, but if you consistently make the overall argument, it is very likely that the prosecution will refuse to make a statement in the end. In the end, the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit has insisted that it does not have the right to investigate since the beginning of the investigation, but even if the case is transferred to the prosecution for prosecution, I don't think there is a way to recognize the investigation rights of the Senior Civil Servant Corruption Investigations Unit. Therefore, considering the consistency of the argument, I think that the prosecution will also refuse to make a statement or exercise most of the right to remain silent.

[Anchor]
Now let's look at what's related to the West District Court raid. After the issuance of the arrest warrant, President Yoon's supporters attacked the court, so first, please organize what has been revealed so far.

[Reporter]
It was early yesterday morning that the court issued an arrest warrant. But something that shouldn't have happened at dawn yesterday. More than 100 supporters of President Yoon Suk Yeol in the Seoul Western District Court carried out violent acts that reached the level of disturbance, intrusion, disturbance, and riot. And he broke into the Western District Court, searched for judges who issued arrest warrants, assaulted them, threw fire extinguishers, and other things that shouldn't have happened. We talk about the court as the last bastion of the rule of law. However, it is evaluated that such actions as searching for a judge in the court and breaking into the court to wield violence against him are unacceptable in a democratic and constitutional society. If you look closely at the situation at the time, the fact that the warrant was issued was reported to the media at 2:59. After that, the supporters were extremely excited when they heard the news through the media. At about 3:07 p.m., they broke through the police cordon and broke into the courthouse. And around 3:21, you can see it on the screen. You'll see them breaking the court door like that and entering the court at around 3:21. For now, the situation inside the court was found to have been cleared at around 5:15 a.m., but some protesters continued to confront the police outside the building until 7:20. Police arrested 90 rioters who went on a rampage at the Seoul Western District Court and the Constitutional Court. And they applied for arrest warrants for 66 people. Now, five people said they have been questioned by the Western District Court before their arrest. Of the 46 people who broke into the Western District Court, three YouTubers were included. The police are now looking for anyone who has participated in more violent acts by thoroughly analyzing them through mobile phones, evidence data, and YouTube videos. The police and the prosecution continue to express their position that they will suddenly track down and investigate illegal actors, people who have taught illegal activities, and helpers, and that they will punish them strictly.

[Anchor]
You're watching it on the video now, but I think the employees must have felt a lot of fear. It seems that the situation went back to urgency while evacuating to the rooftop and operating the firewall, but I heard that there was also a situation that targeted Judge Cha Eun-kyung?

[Reporter]
That's right. More than 10 people rushed in and blocked the entrance with vending machines on the first floor when supporters of President Yoon Suk Yeol, who committed violence, tried to enter the court, where court officials rioted. But when the front door was opened, they showed very violent actions. Violent acts continued, such as throwing fire extinguishers, spraying fire extinguishers, breaking windows with blunt instruments and entering the courthouse. Therefore, when the front door was opened, the employees had no choice but to evacuate to the rooftop. The firewall was activated in this process. It is said that there were 24 to 25 employees. Employees went up to the rooftop, blocked the rooftop door, and waited for about an hour. It seems that the situation was really urgent at the time because there were acts of wielding dangerous objects such as blunt weapons and weapons. Police shields and light sticks were also taken away, and it is confirmed that it was truly lawless. It really shouldn't happen. More than 100 protesters came into the court, but they visited the judge's office when they broke into the seventh floor of the court. It is said that only the warrant judge's room was intentionally damaged. It is presumed that he knew where the warrant judge's room was and came in, given that there are traces of him entering it. However, Cha Eun-kyung's room was not broken into. Because supporters of Yoon Suk Yeol's president only went up to the seventh floor. However, Cha Eun-kyung's room was on the ninth floor. Therefore, it seems that it has not reached the room of Chief Judge Cha Eun-kyung.

[Anchor]
The head of the court's administrative department visited the site and inspected it in person, but he also strongly criticized that terrorism against judges denies the rule of law. What charges do the people who are involved in this?

[Jeongbin Seo]
First of all, if you look at it in order, the moment you break into the court building with multiple powers, you are guilty of invading special buildings. And it is a crime of damage to public objects if you go in and damage the outer wall or break the window and damage other furniture. In addition, physical force was exercised while preventing the police from being restrained, and dozens of police were injured in this situation, so the crime of obstructing the execution of special public affairs will eventually be established. In fact, most of the situations are understood to be very serious, as there is now a saying that the possibility of establishing a crime of need or rebellion should be reviewed.

[Anchor]
It can be said that the situation was serious as if the real charges were applied, but the physical damage is estimated to be 600 to 700 million won. Our report came out, too. How much is this counted?

[Jeongbin Seo]
A day has passed, but traces of yesterday's riot remain in the court. The signboard at the back gate is uprooted as it is. The windows are also shattered, and as you can see on the screen, it's the outer wall of the court building. The outer wall is all broken, so now I'm putting it on with a sandwich panel or something. Security is also being strengthened in India, such as blocking the police, and as you can see, the signboard of the Western District Court has collapsed. You can see the exterior walls broken everywhere, and you can see them breaking down court facilities with plastic chairs or tables. There are a lot of damaged parts like this. Restoration of the building is also expected to take a considerable amount of time. We've finished cleaning large-scale waste by yesterday. Today, we cleaned the interior of the building and filled the outer wall tiles in places. The windows are also broken a lot, so it is expected to take about three more days to change them. The CCTV itself is now broken by violent acts. That's why CCTV installations will also take some time to recover. It is said that the amount of material damage estimated by the court administration is about 600 to 700 million won. The damage to the exterior walls, windows, shutters, CCTVs, access control systems, desks and other furniture and sculptural artworks has revealed the scale of property damage of 600 to 700 million won, the court administration says.

[Anchor]
In this regard, there are some YouTubers who have promoted intrusion and violence, and there are opinions like this, but can they be subject to punishment?

[Jeongbin Seo]
If the facts are confirmed after the investigation is conducted, it can be sufficiently punished. To divide it a little legally, for example, if there is a YouTuber who ordered a public official to be assaulted and one of the supporters who heard it acted, it can be a teacher who interferes with the execution of public affairs. If you can be punished as a teacher offender and of course, if you encourage or excite the ongoing crime, or if you played a role in this way, you can be punished as a joint offender because you were in charge of a functional act, that is, in the end, the same as the crime. So, we have to look into the facts, but if there is anything that has affected this case, there is a good chance that we will eventually be punished, whether it is a teacher or a co-pilot.

[Anchor]
On the other hand, Pastor Jeon Kwang-hoon said this. President Yoon can be brought out of the Seoul Detention Center, which is controversial, but the correction headquarters drew a line saying that it won't happen, right?

[Reporter]
First of all, it is interpreted as a statement that stimulates some far-right forces. There are lawyers, but in fact, if you try to pull the president out of the detention center, you can only bring him out by committing violence again and acting like a riot. It would be a situation that actually makes no sense to call the exercise of the right to resistance, the current situation. This is also a statement made by Jeon Kwang-hoon, pastor of Sarang First Church, as if encouraging radical actions. I mentioned the right to resistance at the service. That's what I said. He argued that the right to national resistance has already been invoked and that the right to national resistance is above the constitution. So, we made this absurd claim that we can get President Yoon out of the detention center because the right to resistance has been activated. This suggests that even though there are judicial procedures that all citizens must follow, they can violate them with the power of the majority. Civic groups have filed a complaint with the police against Jeon Kwang-hoon, pastor of Sarang First Church, for inciting a rebellion. In response, Chun Dae-yup, the head of the National Court Administration, visited the Western District Court yesterday and defined the riot as a denial of the rule of law and a very serious crime.

[Anchor]
What exactly is the right to national resistance that you just mentioned?

[Jeongbin Seo]
The right to resistance, for example, refers to the last method of exercising such rights, including all means, violent or nonviolent, if the exercise of public power is anti-constitutional and the people are unable to resolve illegal and unconstitutional situations. Therefore, the Constitutional Court and the society recognize the right to resist itself, but in fact, it is such a right that should be used as a last resort. In fact, it is safe to say that the right to resist can be exercised in this situation that is coming out now, and it is safe to say that there are no people in favor of it in the legal profession.

[Anchor]
Reporter Baek explained it, and of course he said it was a ridiculous claim. If something like this happens, of course, it can lead to an arrest and a problem, right?

[Jeongbin Seo]
That's right. We have to look at the specific situation, but in this case, the crime of rebellion can be a problem again, and various problems can arise, such as the crime of need and obstruction of the execution of special public affairs, which have been a problem in the Western District Court. In addition, problems such as criminal escape can occur. The crime is also a crime, but if such an unprecedented situation occurs, in fact, punishment is bound to be far more severe than any other case, and even if you are sentenced to prison, the level of imprisonment is inevitably high.

[Anchor]
I see. We'll stop listening to you two today. It was with Baek Jong-kyu, a reporter from the Ministry of Social Affairs, and Seo Jeong-bin, a lawyer. Thank you.